Good evening. You're listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I'm your host, Rob Zakney. We have a full panel today. First, we welcome our old friend and founding member of Throoves A Head. Tom Check. Tom, welcome to the show. If anyone needs a coffee today, let me know. I'm happy to run and get you one. We also welcome our producer, Michael Hermes. Hi, Rob. Happy to be back on. And finally we brought back her old friend, Eric Hansen.

Don't really know why you bring me in. our producer Michael Hermes. Hi, Rob. Happy to be back on.

And finally, we brought back our old friend, Eric Hanson.

Don't really know why you bring me into this, but I'm glad to be here.

Well, the reason we imported you for this particular episode, Eric, is because I think we have a history on this show of dragging away from your layer at at gamers with jobs and bring you over to talk

about Victorian era strategy games.

So it seemed just appropriate that we'd have you back to talk about Victoria 2 again, which

I don't think we've talked about on this show in about two years at least.

And the reason we're back to it now is because it just

released a new expansion, Heart of Darkness. I almost said hearts of iron. So there's too many

hearts in the paradox lineup. We are talking about Heart of Darkness, the latest expansion for

Victoria 2, that changes quite a bit to the point where I feel like a lot of

this episode is going to be me going back and sort of disavowing some of the things I've said

about Victoria 2 over the years.

Excellent.

Well, hey, hold your horses there, Michael.

Just don't get too excited, okay?

I stand, it still has some issues.

There's a far more important reason that we should be talking about Victoria 2 right now,

and that is, because assuming that you're listening to this the day that it drops,

this game gets the series, gets an entire day devoted to it. I just want to say to everyone

who's not in America, happy Victoria Day,

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