Good evening. You're listening to Three Moves Ahead, the Once in Future official podcast of

a flash of steel.com, and coming to you on the Idle Thumbs Podcast Network. I am your host

for the evening, Troy Goodfellow, and with me today are two of our regular and original

founding panelists. We have from Gameres with Jobs, Julian Murdoch. Hello, hello. And we have

from the OR, Dr. Bruce Garrick. Yeah, hello gamers. And from Tom versus Bruce, which I understand

the new, the first Tom versus is going to be going up very soon. Uh, it sure is, if we can

figure out WordPress, then absolutely. With us us tonight we have two of our favorite guests uh people who've been on the show

a number of times and who always have wise things to say uh we have from hasbro uh that he will

soon be striking out on his own uh designer of risk legacy and a and a really smart guy, Mr. Rob Davio.

Hello, hello.

And from No High Scores and Conquistador Games, a former editor and dear friend of mine,

and the cheatingest commissioner in the Out of the Park baseball, Mr. Bill Abner.

And yes, I am definitely my most favorite guest.

So this is a bigger panel than usual, but you hope to keep the conversation moving quite tightly.

And the topic for tonight is teaching games.

How is it that we communicate to friends, to strangers, to anybody?

How do you play a game? How do you understand a game?

Now, this topic came to my mind for a number of reasons.

Bill and I have talked about Conquistadors' Road to Enlightenment game and how it will be to teach that.

I'm constantly bombarded with people asking me,

how do I get started in Europa Universalis 4?

And these are not easy things necessarily to communicate,

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