Three Martinis with Tevi Troy: 'Unprecedented' History, Presidents vs. CEO's, 'Die Hard'
3 Martini Lunch
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4.6 • 1.4K Ratings
🗓️ 2 September 2024
⏱️ 25 minutes
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Summary
They begin by noting that Troy is well known for being the historian pouring cold water on politicians and their supporters, who are frequently and loudly insisting that whatever they are upset about is unprecedented and proof that the other side is on the brink of ruining the nation. Tevi says that over 235 years of the presidency we've seen a lot, and the people pulling their hair out don't know their history and are often substituting politics for religion.
Next, they dig into Troy's book, "The Power and the Money" and how in the span of 150 years, America went from a posture of government and business being completely separate to now being very closely intertwined and impacting our lives regularly. They explore who deserves a lot of the blame for that disturbing evolution and which historical examples best inform of us of today's nexus between business and politics.
Finally, as promised, they close out their discussion with a deep dive into "Die Hard," exploring why it remains a cultural phenomenon and what separate it from other great action movies. And they reflect on how it portrays institutions like the government and the media.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the Three Martini lunch. |
| 0:04.7 | Grab a stole next to Greg Carumbus of Radio America and Jim Garrity of National Review. |
| 0:09.5 | Three Martini's coming up. |
| 0:11.8 | Very glad to have you with us on this. Three Martini's coming up. |
| 0:18.0 | Very glad to have you with us on this special Labor Day edition of the Three Martini lunch. Today, Jim and I are joined in one of those rare occasions where we actually have a guest. |
| 0:23.6 | And this guest is an avid listener to the three martini lunch as well |
| 0:28.0 | and always highlights our diehard references. |
| 0:30.3 | So he's very special to us and that's Tevie Troy the bipartisan policy forum and he's the author of the power and the money the epic clashes between commanders and chief and Titans of industry |
| 0:40.1 | So it's a good tie-in to Labor Day.vie, it's great to have you with us. |
| 0:44.0 | Thanks for having me, Yippecayet. |
| 0:46.0 | Absolutely, right. |
| 0:48.0 | So one of the things that Jim and I appreciate about you |
| 0:55.0 | appreciate it about you among the diehard references as well, but the historical perspective that you provide to different items that pop up in the news. |
| 1:00.0 | And we're just talking about it before we started. |
| 1:02.0 | So when people say, oh, this has never happened before, |
| 1:06.6 | or this is unprecedented or things like that, |
| 1:10.6 | how fast do your spidey senses go off given that we've got a you know |
| 1:13.6 | 230 some year history of the presidency I would say immediately I hate when people |
| 1:20.1 | say unprecedented with respect to the president because it's almost never accurate. |
| 1:24.0 | And in fact in 2020 I kept hearing all the stuff about it's unprecedented, all the fighting in the |
| 1:28.1 | Trump White House. |
| 1:29.3 | And I wrote my book, Fight House, which you guys were very kind to. |
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