Three Experts on Trump’s Foreign Policy

Fareed Zakaria GPS

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🗓️ 7 July 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Today on the show, in a special edition of GPS from the Aspen Ideas Festival, Fareed speaks with two former national security advisers, John Bolton and Susan Rice, and former CIA Director/US Army retired Gen. David Petraeus about the Trump administration’s foreign policy, including the future of Iran’s regime and the state of America’s global alliances. Next, architect Vishaan Chakrabarti and scholar Marc Dunkelman talk with Fareed about why progressives struggle to build the infrastructure necessary to improve the cities that they run. Then, New York Times columnist Thomas Friedman tells Fareed the three factors he thinks are crucial for understanding the politics of today’s Middle East. Finally, Fareed and Walter Isaacson, historian and biographer, discuss the growing wealth inequality across the US and what else —besides wealth — is necessary to build good societies. GUESTS: David Petraeus, John Bolton (@AmbJohnBolton), Susan Rice (@AmbassadorRice), Tom Friedman (@tomfriedman), Vishaan Chakrabarti, Marc Dunkelman (@MarcDunkelman), Walter Isaacson (@WalterIsaacson) Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	This is GPS, the Global Public Square.
0:04.0	Welcome to all of you in the United States and around the world.
0:07.0	I'm Farid Zakaria, coming to you from the Aspen Ideas Festival.
0:12.0	We'll start with two national security advisors at a four-star general,
0:17.0	who was also CIA director.
0:21.6	Susan Rice, John Bolton and David Petraeus
0:24.6	joined me on stage to talk about Donald Trump's foreign policy.
0:28.6	Are we headed to regime change in Iran?
0:32.6	Also, the big question Democrats are grappling with is, can they get things done?
0:40.6	Can they build stuff?
0:43.2	The iconic example, of course, is New York's Penn Station, considered the busiest transit hub
0:49.5	in the entire Western Hemisphere, which for decades has been a dysfunctional embarrassment.
0:56.3	Ongoing delays tonight at Penn Station.
0:58.4	Scary, dangerous and dilapidated.
1:00.4	A dangerous dungeon.
1:02.1	There's a real fear of just trying to get to work.
1:04.9	I sit down with two shop scholars to talk about the problem and more importantly, the solution.
1:13.6	Finally, Walter Isaacson is not only a founder of the Aspen Ideas Festival, but one of America's
1:18.6	great historians. He and I had a wide-ranging conversation about America and the world.
1:35.3	Over the last year, Israel has been assaulting Iran and its access of resistance with deadly effect.
1:42.2	All this came to our head in the last few weeks with a bombing campaign against Iran joined by the United States.
1:47.0	Will the next step be regime change in Iran? We talked about this at the Aspen Ideas Festival with a high-powered panel. Susan Rice, National Security
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