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Hello again, this is Bruce, this is Eke Sleep Work Repeat. I'm Bruce Dazley. It's episode 45 in fact. Now this is the second part of an in-depth look into the work of thought leaders.

It's all very well looking at academics and people who've done research and investigation

But what about the people who haven't done that? Maybe I've just been unfairly

Dismissive to people with opinions. So we've just done the episode of Tom Goodwin and here's

Chris Barres Brown now Chris Barres Brown is a best-selling author I think he

was Penguin's best-selling business author in 2014 and he's a culture consultant he set up a business called

upping your Elvis which their website says is creative leadership capability company

we train businesses to manage change by giving people creativity energy and flexibility

As Chris describes they provide sort of immersive experiences to improve the culture of leadership teams

Now these things don't come cheaply one company told me is to improve the culture of leadership teams.

Now these things don't come cheaply.

One company told me they'd spent over a million pounds

using up in your Elvis.

So it's obviously sort of highly demanded, highly coveted, highly prized stuff.

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