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Thomas Wirthlin McConkie: How Meditation and Being Still Help Us Know God

All In

DB Podcasts

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.86.3K Ratings

🗓️ 7 August 2019

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Despite being born into a family with strong Latter-day Saint roots, Thomas McConkie stopped attending church at the age of 13. However, a spiritual journey, which spanned nearly two decades and included becoming proficient in Buddhist meditation, brought him back to an unlikely destination: The faith of his youth.

"I'm really comfortable with the definition of meditation as remembrance. And that feels very much like a gospel principle to me, like when we remember what are we remembering? Well, let me just riff a little bit: We remember that we are sons and daughters, that we're children of a living God. And when we remember that, the quality of our whole life in this very moment changes."

Show Notes

3:08- Leaving the Church at 13 years old
4:51- Discovering Meditation
5:46- Redemption in Stillness
12:26- Power to Heal a Generation
16:49- The Meaning of Meditation
19:34- Stillness Among Saints
25:34- Changing a Culture
28:15- Home-centered Church's Opportunity
31:49- Ministering and Meditation
33:05- Creating a Community
35:56- Message to a Teenager Struggling With Faith
37:50- If You Love Someone Struggling With Faith
39:29- A Grandfather's Love
42:36- What Does It Mean To Be All In The Gospel of Jesus Christ?

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make my day. So thank you so much and now we'll get on to this week's episode.

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Thomas McConkey is the grandson of Joseph B. Wurflin and the great nephew of Bruce R. McConkey.

0:35.2

Two names you might recognize and yet at the age of 13 he stopped attending church.

0:41.6

Ultimately a 20-year spiritual journey to China and back led him to return to the faith of his youth.

0:49.2

What healed what had previously been a painful space in his life and called him home?

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Meditation and stillness.

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Thomas Wurflin McConkey is author of navigating Mormon faith crisis and the founder of Lower

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Light School of Wisdom. He has been practicing mindfulness and other meditative techniques for 20 years

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and studying their effects on human potential. He and his wife Gloria live in Salt Lake City.

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This is All-In, an LDS living podcast where we ask the question,

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what does it really mean to be All-In, the gospel of Jesus Christ? I'm Morgan Jones and I am

1:30.4

so grateful to have Thomas McConkey with me today. Thomas, welcome.

1:34.5

Thank you. Good to be here Morgan.

1:36.4

Well, I have been so looking forward to this conversation and I would love just as we start to

1:42.8

kind of introduce people to you and to your story. So if there's there are people listening

1:48.4

that are completely new to you, don't know anything about you, how would you briefly sum up a

1:54.5

little bit about your faith journey? How brief. I can be so brief or just give us some detail.

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I'm the guy who accidentally became proficient in meditation and realized that it is a spiritual

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