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Thomas Sowell on Economic Facts and Fallacies

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🗓️ 25 February 2008

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Thomas Sowell of Stanford University's Hoover Institution talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about the ideas in his new book, Economic Facts and Fallacies. He discusses the misleading nature of measured income inequality, CEO pay, why nations grow or stay poor, the role of intellectuals and experts in designing public policy, and immigration.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty. I'm your host Russ Roberts

0:13.9

of George Mason University and Stanford University's Hoover Institution. Our website is econtalk.org

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where you can subscribe, find other episodes, comment on this podcast, and find links to

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another information related to today's conversation. Our email address is mailadicontalk.org. We'd

0:33.6

love to hear from you. My guest today is Thomas Sol, the Rose and Milton Friedman Senior Fellow at

0:41.4

Stanford University's Hoover Institution. He's the author of numerous books, including basic

0:46.4

economics, knowledge and decisions, and a conflict of visions. His latest book and our topic for

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today is Economic Facts and Fallacies. Dr. Sol, welcome to Econ Talk. Thank you. Now your latest book,

1:00.2

Economic Facts and Fallacies is full of interesting data and arguments. Refuting some of the most

1:05.6

common fallacies we hear all too often. I'd like to talk about a few of them today. The first is the

1:11.6

area of what is called income distribution or standard of living in a more benign description. A lot

1:19.4

of people believe that the standard of living of the average American is no higher than it was,

1:24.7

say, 35 years ago. True or false? False. Why? Well, if we look just at the consumption figures,

1:33.6

that's the easiest way that the consumption is going up by a very substantial amount over the whole

1:39.3

period. I don't know how you can say that the standard of living is the same as the consumption is

1:44.3

gone up. There are a lot of reasons why people are able to claim that standard of living hasn't

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gone up. One of the most common is that they use statistics on household income. And the problem

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with that is that households have been declining in size over time. Households also differ from one

2:06.5

group to another from one income bracket to another and so on. Personally, I'm just, I find it

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maddening that people insist on that on using household statistics. When a household

2:17.9

to mean very different numbers of people, whereas individual income always means one person's income.

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And for example, over a period of about 30 years, the average household income in the United

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