Thomas Ricks on Churchill and Orwell

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🗓️ 19 June 2017

⏱️ 66 minutes

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Author and historian Thomas Ricks talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about his book, Churchill and Orwell. Ricks makes the case that the odd couple of Winston Churchill and George Orwell played and play an important role in preserving individual liberty. Ricks reviews the contributions of these two giants whose lives overlapped and whose legacy remains vibrant.

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0:00.0	Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty.
0:08.5	I'm your host, Russ Roberts, of Stanford University's Hoover Institution.
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0:34.1	Today's June 5th, 2017, and I guess is author and journalist Thomas Ricks, he is the National
0:39.5	Security Advisor at the Think Tank New America, the military history columnist at the New
0:44.3	Times Book Review.
0:45.8	His blog, Best Defense, can be found at formpolicy.com, where he's also a contributing editor.
0:51.7	His books include Fiasco, The Generals, and his latest book, which is our topic for today,
0:57.0	Churchill, and Orwell, The Fight for Freedom, Tom Welch from Deacon Talk.
1:01.8	Thank you.
1:02.8	At first glance, Churchill and Orwell seem like an unlikely pairing.
1:07.2	What did you see in their lives and work that encouraged you to write this book and put
1:10.6	them together?
1:11.6	Well, for me, it actually began with, as a feeling I was sort of leaving journalism, I
1:17.8	guess, becoming a full-time book writer.
1:20.3	And I think it's part of my farewell to journalism.
1:23.1	I went back and started reading a lot of 20th century journalists.
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