I started testosterone and then six months later, I had enough physical changes that people just started treating me differently.

And for me, because it was only six months, it was a really abrupt change.

I just felt like suddenly I was, it was much easier to get a raise.

I didn't really have to ask.

I got promoted very quickly.

I could see compared to the women around me that I was experiencing a different kind of privilege.

I'm Jocelyn K. Gly, and this is Hurry Slowly, a podcast about pacing yourself,

where I explore how you can be more productive, creative, and resilient through the simple act of slowing down.

Today we're talking about gender, which might not seem like the most obvious topic

when you contemplate the value of going slow.

But slowness isn't only about our speed in 3D space.

It's also about the speed of thought.

Because when we're pressed for time, we're much more likely to rush to judgment or to succumb to our most basic biases.

Rather than consciously choosing a course of action that aligns with our highest values,

we choose the path of least resistance, the status quo.

But what exactly is the status quo when it comes to gender?

And particularly when it comes to the way that we navigate gender dynamics at work.

And how can we expand our awareness of where we are making snap judgments, or gliding

along on privilege, or otherwise unconsciously acting out gender stereotypes?

To help me dig into all of these complex questions, my guest is Thomas Page McBee,

the first transgender man to box in Madison Square Garden, and the author of the moving new memoir,

Amateur, a true story about what makes a man.

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