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This is an interesting one folks. I stumbled upon our guest when I read an article, I have

a Google, I've mentioned this before, but I have a Google alert on the words meditation

and mindfulness. So I get all sorts of interesting articles about the meditation and mindfulness

space in my inbox every day. And I saw an article in the Deseret news, which is the big

newspaper in Salt Lake City, Utah. And the headline was, what a Mormon doing Buddhist meditation

has to do with the future of faith. And it was about this guy Thomas McConkey, who had spent

many, who grew up in the Mormon community and then went off and spent many, many years

doing Buddhist meditation, seriously engaged with the practice. And then came back to Salt Lake

City to this very Mormon community and has started a quite a successful, a little Buddhist meditation

group called Lower Lights. And so I can only imagine, I could only imagine, as I read this article,

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