Welcome to the Eric Metaxus show.

Hey, for you Eric Mataxis trivia buffs out there, Eric's Secret Service codename is El Jerko.

Please make note of it.

And now the man who'll deny it, but it's true anyway.

Here's El Jerko himself, my friend Eric Mattaxas. Hey there, folks. Welcome to the program. This is the

Eric Mattaxas show. I promise to bring you wonderful guests. And very often I succeed. For example,

today I have as my guest for the hour, Thomas Klingenstein. He's a businessman, playwright,

philanthropist, but for our purposes, he's the chairman of the Claremont Institute. If you're

unaware of the Claremont Institute, well, consider yourself aware. They are a wonderful

think tank in California. And I just, I'm thrilled, Tom, to have you on the

program. Thanks for making time. Well, I'm pleased to be here. Thank you, Eric. Well, you, there was a

video just the other day that was making the rounds on YouTube of you giving a speech. It was really spectacular.

I don't know if we want to talk about the subject of that or if we want to talk about what has

become of the Democratic Party. There's so many people that seem to think Joe Biden is a

moderate choice, a wise choice. And I am, I'm so horrified by that.

How I wish that were true, but it isn't true. And so let's start anywhere you'd like to start.

I also know you have an article in Newsweek that people can look up, but what's on your mind today?

Well, if you start with Biden, I'll start with Biden.

And I agree with you.

He's a puppet.

He's been radicalized.

He doesn't know that.

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