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This is Design Matters

with Debbie Millman from design observer.com.

For 13 years now, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other creative types

about what they do, how they got to be who they are, and what they're thinking about.

On this podcast, Debbie Millman talks with the director of Hamilton, Thomas Kale, about his career

and about the joys of collaboration.

I learned not only how much bigger the world was than my

little group of friends, but there were people that were going to make things that I would never

be able to make, and I welcomed that. Here's Debbie Milman.

You could say that directing a musical is a former. to that

here's Debbie Millman. You could say that directing a musical is a form of design and the materials are music,

lyrics, and human performers.

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