I'm

I'm going to be able to be. Welcome to another Socrates in the city event here at the home of Thomas Howard, the great author, and I'm happy to say, my dear friend.

He has written many books in part one of this Socrates in the city interview with him.

We talked principally about his book, Chance or the Dance, which I could rave and rave about and

typically do. In this hour, I want to talk to him about lots of other things.

My conversations with him over the years have been so fascinating that I really just wanted to share some of that with my Socrates and the city audience so that you could also get a taste of Tom and of his mind and be intrigued to want to read his books.

So we're here without a studio audience.

You're the audience.

And so hold your applause.

But I do have to say that it means so much to me that Tom and his dear wife, Lovelace, have led us into their home

with all these cameras and microphones and things.

But it's a privilege for me, and I hope you'll enjoy it nearly as much as I do.

So stay tuned.

Tom, let me start with this in the second part of our conversation.

You know that I love you, and I can say that to you, because you have an understanding of that word.

My understanding of that word comes from things I've read by you and C.S. Lewis, but you know that I love you.

And it's such a joy to be with you that, as I think I said before,

I could almost talk to you about anything because I enjoy talking to you.

That's mutual.

I hope that doesn't embarrass you too much.

But I really, I revel in you and your emails and your letters and things.

And actually, maybe a good place to start would be,

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