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Thomas Hazlett on Telecommunications

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🗓️ 24 November 2008

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Summary

Thomas Hazlett of George Mason University talks with EconTalk host Russ Roberts about a number of key issues in telecommunications and telecommunication policy including net neutrality, FCC policy, and the state of antitrust. Hazlett argues for an emergent, Hayekian approach to policy toward the internet rather than trying to design it from the top down and for an increased use of exchangeable property rights in allocating spectrum.

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0:00.0

Welcome to Econ Talk, part of the Library of Economics and Liberty. I'm your host Russ Roberts

0:13.9

of George Mason University and Stanford University's Hoover Institution. Our website is econtalk.org

0:21.2

where you can subscribe, find other episodes, comment on this podcast, and find links to

0:26.5

another information related to today's conversation. Our email address is mailadicontalk.org. We'd

0:33.6

love to hear from you. My guest today is Thomas Hazelett, Professor of Law and Economics,

0:40.9

and my colleague here at George Mason University. Welcome to Econ Talk. Thanks Russ. Our topic

0:47.0

today is telecommunications. A subject most of us pay little attention to, except when it

0:51.0

sort of burst through into the news, loudly enough to get us focused on it. One of the issues

0:56.7

that we hear about a lot these days is net neutrality. What is that issue and what's involved?

1:02.9

The question actually is harder than you might think because there are many flavors of proposed

1:10.9

regulation which are involved in the net neutrality matrix. But at a high level, the argument is

1:17.9

made that the internet has been created according to particular blueprints of architectural design.

1:28.1

And this design is to basically separate the edge of the network, which is where applications

1:41.4

are provided to end users, individual consumers, from the core of the network, which is essentially

1:50.3

an interconnected layer of networks. And the argument has been that this design of the internet

1:57.7

has worked particularly well in allowing lots of independent innovators to offer their content

2:07.3

or applications to the marketplace without reinventing the wheel, which is to save building

2:13.3

their own delivery network. And so the argument is extended to say that this structure is

2:22.2

in danger by the emergence of large network providers, if you will, the Comcast, the AT&T's or

2:31.0

Verizon's, which have constructed very considerable infrastructure to bring high-speed data services

2:39.7

to businesses, small businesses, and households. And that they might, if left to their own devices,

2:49.4

try to trespass in the sense of closing off access at the edge of the network so that to

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