Thomas Chatterton Williams on "How the Woke Right Replaced the Woke Left"

Larry Wilmore: Black on the Air

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Society & Culture

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🗓️ 23 February 2025

⏱️ 64 minutes

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Larry is joined by writer and cultural critic Thomas Chatterton Williams to discuss his latest essay for The Atlantic, "How the Woke Right Replaced the Woke Left". They begin by shining a light on the political left’s weak hold on the cultural landscape, and breaking down the definition, history, and downfall of "woke" ideology. Next, they take a look at the rise of right-wing counterculture and its strength within the government and popular media (13:13). After the break, Larry and Thomas examine the growing acceptance of racist rhetoric both domestically and abroad before talking about the serious regime changes they are seeing within the current Donald Trump administration (36:09). They end the pod by debating the political allure of Trump and the next moves for the Democratic Party (48:37). Host: Larry Wilmore Guest: Thomas Chatterton Williams Producer: Chris Sutton Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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