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🗓️ 6 December 2023
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At the halfway point of COP28 the focus is still on fossil fuel abatement.
Ed Crooks is joined by Dr Melissa Lott, Director of Research at Columbia University’s Center on Global Energy Policy and Professor at the Climate School, and Michael Webber, the McKetta Centennial Energy Chair at the University of Texas. Together they examine the biggest themes that are dominating debate at COP28. The arguments and discussions are still going on, but as Melissa says, they’re not at the core of what’s happening at this year’s summit. The planning for a clean energy future is the key focus for a diverse collection of energy leaders and global citizens.
Phase out vs phase down is still the big topic, and the team give their take on the future of fossil fuels. The pledge to triple renewable energy generation is also put under the microscope. What does it mean for financing in the energy transition?
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to the energy gang a discussion show about the fast-changing world of energy |
0:06.6 | coming to you again from the cop 28 climate talks goodbye. |
0:10.1 | I'm in Crooks And it's my great pleasure to welcome today in person. We're all |
0:16.8 | sat around the same table which is a very rare thing for us to be able to do. Most often |
0:20.8 | we record these podcasts remotely. |
0:22.8 | So it's a great pleasure to be here in person with old friends. |
0:26.3 | Melissa Lott, who is the director of research at Columbia University's Center on Global Energy |
0:30.4 | Policy, and also newly appointed climate professor at the climate |
0:34.7 | school. What is that new job you've got? I'm a professor at the climate school. |
0:37.2 | Congratulations again on that appointment and great to see you here as I say in person and |
0:40.9 | also great pleasure to be joined by Michael Weber who is the |
0:44.0 | McKetta Centennial Energy Chair in engineering at the University of Texas in |
0:49.2 | Austin. |
0:50.2 | Michael, great to see you also. |
0:51.4 | Thanks for having me. |
0:52.2 | It's good to see you in person. |
0:53.6 | So I'm kind of overwhelmed, I have to say, by being here, been here only about three or four days, |
0:58.7 | and already it feels like, as they say, my head is full. |
1:02.6 | I've seen it heard too much to be able to make sense of it all properly. |
1:06.8 | And I suspect you will feel the same way as well. |
1:09.6 | It's a very overwhelming experience being here. I'm interested to hear how you feel about it both |
1:16.0 | because I know for both of you it's your first cop right? Neither have you been before. I have |
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