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The Two Matts

This week's Two Matts Q&A: Could Just Stop Oil now be considered terrorists?

The Two Matts

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News, News Commentary, Government, Politics

4.4523 Ratings

🗓️ 29 June 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Summary

The Matts again respond to your queries. They discuss whether the government’s Palestine Action decision means Just Stop Oil could now be considered terrorists, if AI could actually be the populists’ worst nightmare and the genius of David Lynch.

Plus they debate whether journalists should strive for detachment, Keir Starmer’s on-off welfare cuts and which is most cringeworthy: Mark Rutte calling Donald Trump Daddy, Trump comparing Israel and Iran to two schoolkids having a scrap in a playground or the president calling the media “scum”.


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UK forward slash two mats. That's the number two, M-A-T-T-T-S. Hello and happy Sunday, dear listeners.

1:23.3

Happy Sunday, one and all.

1:24.3

Hope you having a great one, wherever you are,

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if you're in Glastow or if you're just enjoying the weather, wherever you happen to be.

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Watching Glastow enjoying the weather at home?

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Exactly.

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First question comes in from Mr. Jonathan Haps.

1:36.9

Kirstarmer was a human rights lawyer, but he's just prescribed a protest group as terrorists for spray painting a plane. Does that mean just stop oil can now

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