This War Isn't What You Think It's About
The Deep End With Lecrae
Lecrae
4.8 • 602 Ratings
🗓️ 3 October 2025
⏱️ 40 minutes
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Summary
In this episode of The Deep End, Lecrae wrestles with the chaos of our modern culture wars. From the fallout of Charlie Kirk's assassination to the pressure Christians feel to "pick a side," he shares his personal experience of being pulled into the crossfire. Lecrae opens up about a shocking vision he had in Africa, the spiritual realities behind political violence, and why the Kingdom of God cannot be reduced to red vs. blue.
This conversation challenges us to ask: Are we fighting with the weapons of the empire, or living out the way of Jesus?
📌 Topics we cover:
- Why Christians are pressured to join the culture war
- Lecrae's personal story after Charlie Kirk's death
- A powerful vision revealing the spiritual battle behind political violence
- Empire vs. Kingdom logic: what Jesus modelled in the midst of conflict
- How the church can embody unity, truth, and love in divided times
The Kingdom doesn't look like the left or the right — it looks like Christ.
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| 0:00.0 | Constantly, my DMs were flooded saying, Why haven't you said anything? Why haven't you said anything? Why haven't you said anything? Constantly my comments were flooded with, this is why I don't like you, you've lost my respect, and I was really taken aback, like, what is going on? Like, who is this guy, and why do people hate me for not talking about them and as I've processed some things are |
| 0:21.9 | clear some things are not what's clear is that we're dead in the middle of a cultural world and the |
| 0:26.9 | enemy is having a field day what do we do as Christians what we're doing unfortunately is we're |
| 0:31.8 | choosing sides in the culture war if people are functioning in a way that accomplishes the agenda of Jesus by means that don't look like Jesus is that Christian. |
| 0:44.3 | Is it Jesus by any means necessary? |
| 0:47.3 | Now, here's what you don't know. |
| 0:48.3 | I've only shared this with a couple of people actually. |
| 0:50.3 | The day I found out about his murder. |
| 0:57.3 | This is The Deep End with La Cray. |
| 1:02.1 | Oh, hey there, I'm LaCray. |
| 1:04.0 | I know you probably think this is going to be a podcast episode for The Deep, but it's not. |
| 1:07.9 | So for all of you who are planning those fun in the Deep End, come a little closer. |
| 1:29.3 | What you may not know is that I'm a rapper. And if you did know I was a rapper, you may have never been to any of my shows. But when I go on tour, you might see a little bit of this. Or you might see a little bit of that. It'll be a good time because, I mean, I'm a rapper. Probably think I do this for the pesos. |
| 1:32.3 | I just preach the message I can't say so. |
| 1:34.3 | You may know or not know that I did not have a prepared statement after the murder and assassination of Charlie Kirk. |
| 1:48.2 | Because of that, people felt as if I had chosen a sigh because I didn't say something. |
| 1:55.3 | They felt as if I had spoken about other things, but not spoken about this. |
| 1:59.3 | And so I had engaged in my, you know, decision of where I stood. |
| 2:08.7 | And I did say something, right? |
| 2:11.8 | First of all, let me make it clear. |
| 2:13.7 | I didn't know Charlie. |
| 2:15.6 | I never met him. |
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