Hey, it's Anna, and this week we're bringing you one of the earliest episodes of our show from 2014.

And it's one of the most personal, too, because it's about me.

It's been on my mind because my husband, Arthur, and I are celebrating our fifth wedding anniversary on Saturday.

But this episode is about the time in our relationship when we didn't know if we were going to stay together.

A lot was different

back then. We didn't have kids. I still lived in New York City, and we weren't keeping six feet

away from other people. It was a time in my life when I didn't know what was going to happen,

and it was really scary. Listening back makes me appreciate just how much we've built together in our marriage and how much help we've gotten along the way.

I hope you enjoy listening to.

Ms. Anna Seals, this is Alan Kaye Simpson in the Wiles of Wyoming, former U.S. Senator.

This is a message I got on my cell phone.

I need to talk to you about an urgent matter.

Nothing life-threatening at all, I can assure you.

Al Simpson is famous for being the Simpson in Simpson Bowles,

that group that made recommendations about American debt a few years back.

I'm a reporter and I was covering politics,

but there was no reason for Al Simpson to be calling me on my personal cell phone.

Anyway, give me a buzz. It's your convenience. I called him back. And then I was walking up 6th Avenue in Manhattan talking to former Senator Al Simpson about my ex-boyfriend, Arthur.

In other words, Senator Allen Simpson had called to talk about my love life.

This is death, sex, and money.

The show from WNYC about the things we think about a lot and need to talk about more.

I'm Anna Sale.

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