This podcast episode features an interview with one of my favorite humans and alchemists, Robert Bartlett.
The Plant Path: Herbalism, Medical Astrology & Spagyric Alchemy
Sajah Popham
4.8 • 570 Ratings
🗓️ 17 February 2021
⏱️ 67 minutes
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Summary
In this episode, Robert and I have a deep discussion on the differences between chemistry and alchemy. Robert reveals how chemistry has had a profound impact on his study of alchemy and spagyrics, what his work as a chemist allowed him to do that other alchemists couldn't (and what he hopes future alchemists can do to build on his work), his answer to a question I get from a lot of new spagyricists, the topic of his next book, and much more.
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ABOUT SAJAH
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Sajah Popham is the author of Evolutionary Herbalism and the founder of the School of Evolutionary Herbalism, where he trains herbalists in a holistic system of plant medicine that encompasses clinical western herbalism, medical astrology, Ayurveda, and spagyric alchemy. His mission is to develop a comprehensive approach that balances the science and spirituality of plant medicine, focusing on using plants to heal and rejuvenate the body, clarify the mind, open the heart, and support the development of the soul. Sajah's approach honors and acknowledges the chemical, energetic, and spiritual properties of plants for a holistic model that uses the whole herb to heal the whole person. He lives on a homestead in the foothills of Mt. Baker Washington with his wife Whitney where he teaches, consults clients, and prepares spagyric herbal medicines.
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ABOUT THE PLANT PATH
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The Plant Path provides unique perspectives for the modern practitioner of herbalism that doesn't just want to "fix what's broken" in the body, but seeks to serve others with deeper levels of healing and transformation with herbal medicines.
A unique synergy of clinical herbalism, alchemy, medical astrology, and herbal traditions from around the world, The Plant Path focuses on giving you a truly "wholistic" perspective on herbal medicine so you never fall into the trap of allopathic herbalism.
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| 0:00.0 | Welcome to the plant path, your window into the world of herbal medicine, with Saja and Whitney Popham, founders of the School of Evolutionary Herbalism. |
| 0:25.4 | Hey there, everybody. |
| 0:26.8 | Saja Popham here, founder of the School of Evolutionary Herbalism. |
| 0:30.9 | And I am super excited to be with my teacher, Robert Bartlett, who has been just an incredible inspiration and |
| 0:42.8 | guide and instructor for me, both as a human and as an herbalist in that he is holding a lineage of knowledge and medicine in regards to the alchemical tradition. |
| 1:00.1 | And Robert is a pretty incredible human being, in my personal opinion, and a brilliant, humble |
| 1:07.5 | man and the author of a number of books in the past and a number of books on the |
| 1:12.9 | way and he lives up here in the Pacific Northwest in my neck of the woods and just crafts incredibly |
| 1:19.9 | powerful alchemical medicines and shares his knowledge and his wisdom. And I'm super excited to |
| 1:26.5 | have you here today on the plant path, Robert. |
| 1:28.3 | Thanks so much for joining me. |
| 1:31.3 | Well, thanks for inviting me. |
| 1:33.3 | Yeah, well, it's, I know we jumped on a, maybe, maybe it was a few years ago |
| 1:40.3 | and had an awesome talk about alchemy and spigyrics and its role in herbal medicine. |
| 1:47.8 | And, you know, we were talking earlier about how, you know, you have kind of been straddling |
| 1:58.0 | two worlds, right, where you had your day job working as a chemist, |
| 2:03.8 | and you alchemist by night, chemist by day, and you just retired from being a chemist. |
| 2:11.5 | And so now you are able to focus on the alchemical works more. |
| 2:17.4 | And it just kind of made me think about how interesting that is that you were able to |
| 2:23.1 | kind of have a foot in both of those worlds and the way that modern chemistry ultimately |
| 2:28.9 | emerged out of the alchemical tradition. |
| 2:33.8 | And I'm just kind of curious, like if you can share a little bit about what, like, what to you is the difference between alchemy and chemistry? |
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