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Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

This Moment in Tech with Meredith Whittaker

Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast

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4.68.9K Ratings

🗓️ 23 April 2024

⏱️ 56 minutes

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Summary

It’s been a wild last year or so in tech. We’ve seen a marked rise in the development of artificial intelligence, large language models and prolific growth of augmented reality systems. At the same time, it can feel like we’re moving backwards as concerns continue to rise about user privacy and the methods by which personal data is collected and monetized. Our guest this week points out that protecting privacy requires tech companies to ditch traditional business models that monetize user surveillance. Meredith Whittaker is president of Signal App and serves as the chief advisor for the AI Now Institute. She joins WITHpod to discuss the rise of big tech, the trajectory of the internet from being more commercialized to open, concerns about tech’s role in American democracy, her thoughts on proposed TikTok bans and more.

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0:00.0

The business model in tech is monetizing surveillance and if you want to focus seriously on privacy, which requires not adopting that business model, not monetizing data you collect, either through training AI models or selling ads or what have you, then you cannot be pressured by commercial

0:27.9

incentives to put profit and growth above that mission, which is ultimately what a commercial entity is bound to do.

0:37.0

Hello, and welcome to Wises Happ happening with me, your host Chris Hayes.

0:44.0

It's been a very weird last year or so in tech in the sort of broad universe of

0:56.4

Silicon Valley and the internet and the digital world. There was this enormous

1:01.4

bubble that happened during COVID and huge skyrocketing valuations, lots of money sloshing around, lots of huge expansions in hiring, and there were these two huge bubbles that formed. One was the

1:15.5

Bitcoin and cryptocurrency bubble which has I would say subsequently popped and

1:21.2

also re-inflated. So that's one.

1:23.6

And then remember there was the whole meta,

1:25.9

the metaverse bubble.

1:27.7

Mark Zuckerberg changed the name of the company to Meta

1:31.1

because they were gonna, they put all this investment I think it was

1:34.2

literally billions of dollars of investment into the metaverse which was going to be this

1:38.0

virtual world there were people on the metaverse which I never actually quite

1:41.4

understood who were buying property on

1:44.2

the Metiverse for like six figures, it wasn't real. I mean, I guess everyone knew

1:50.6

that, but I never quite understood it it seemed like a ludicrous bubble that has

1:54.4

obviously since popped and I think shown to be a ludicrous bubble in the wake of all that

1:59.6

there's been a lot of retrenchment there's been big layoffs in Silicon Valley there's been a kind of

2:05.0

of creeping sense of maybe that were the end of some kind of era web 2.0 it's often

2:11.2

called and then of course there's now the rise of this new technology

2:15.5

that everyone's going all in on which is AI, artificial intelligence, large language

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