Hello, ever since this horror began, I've been trying to use this space as best I can,

to elevate voices we need to hear. And that is, of course, must involve Palestinians,

and it has to involve courageous Israeli peace activists who are constantly

normal of. It's not easy at the moment to be fighting for peace and for justice in Israeli society, but there is a very inspiring tradition,

which I keep going on about. The left as we exist would not exist without the great

humanist tradition, which is so interwoven

with the Jewish tradition, and that has shapes the left

since its foundation really.

So with that in mind, it's a huge honor to be joined by

Donna Mills who is the biographer of Rosa Loxenburg so when I'm a big admirer of my twin

sister named her cat after her.

She's also a dance writer and also a fighter for social justice.

We've got two big things in common I would say.

Yeah, half Welsh. We've got two big things in common I would say.

Yeah and half Welsh

Are you half Welsh? I am half Welsh indeed. Yeah my dad is born and raised in Cardiff so yeah

You're more Welsh than me there is I'm afraid a division now opening up which we're gonna have to get over which is my dad's family for North Wales the

clean peninsula so we're off to a terrible start the north-south.

That's it.

We're down now.

The other is a love of cats both every exchange we've had is I didn't say I didn't keep my side of the bargain I should have

sent pictures of my cats but I'm unfortunately in Paris at the moment so not with my cats I'm

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