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The Daily Beast Podcast

This Is Why Trump Lost It After Kirk Murder: Wolff

The Daily Beast Podcast

The Daily Beast

News & Politics

4.67.9K Ratings

🗓️ 14 September 2025

⏱️ 40 minutes

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Summary

Trump chronicler Michael Wolff joins the Beast’s Joanna Coles to unravel Donald Trump’s response to Charlie Kirk’s killing. They examine how Trump rushed to blame the left before facts were known, appears to have dodged any real grief, and may still be haunted by his own brush with assassination. From a Trump’s droopy face appearing at this week’s 9/11 memorial, to cracks with RFK Jr., a cabinet unease over inflation, and Epstein’s “birthday book” resurfacing, it’s been another chaotic week for the president. They also discuss the FBI’s fumbling search for Kirk’s killer and how its apparent incompetence has fueled conspiracy theories and social media attacks across the political divide. They explore how these events reveal a leader trapped by ghosts of the past. And they ask whether Trump is running from Kirk’s death or from himself.

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Michael, what do you think about how Donald Trump has responded to the death of Charlie Kirk?

0:58.3

I think it's pernicious in the way he's responded to it.

1:01.7

I think he's put Charlie Kirk's death to political use.

1:08.2

And I think he's put it to dangerous political use. I mean, without knowing the facts,

1:14.0

this is before we had a suspect in the killing of Charlie Kirk. Donald Trump was out essentially saying

1:23.2

that the left, the liberals, the Democrats, and anyone who might oppose him was complicit in the killing of Charlie Kurt.

1:33.0

This is both not only just specious, wrong, but it's obviously irresponsible.

1:39.9

And I can't help feeling that perhaps part of the issue is that he can't talk about.

1:46.3

He can't come to grips with this, that maybe in his mind, inside Trump's head, it's too

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