Hello, I'm Kevin Fallon, and this is Obsessed the podcast, where we talk to you about all the TV shows, movies, and entertainment news that we can't stop thinking about, and we think are unmissable.

And I am so excited today because I am going to be talking about the TV show that has occupied

pretty much every thought that I've had, every waking moment of the last month or so.

And if we're being honest, a lot of my sleeping moments, too.

I mean, it's a pretty steamy show.

I'm talking about, of course, my obsession with heated rivalry.

I'll be joined by my friend of The Daily Beast.

Matt will seem to talk about the show, and we'll see if he actually did his homework and watched.

And then we're going to continue talking about heated rivalry because my guest is the icon, the legend, the fashion guru, the magazine,

maven, the podcaster extraordinaire,

fabulousness and personified,

and unrelated to all of that just happens to be my boss.

Because for some reason I thought it was a great idea

to talk to my boss about the gay sex show.

It's The Daily Beast, Joanna Coles.

We're going to talk about all the great stories she has from her years,

covering celebrities and pop culture at major places like Cousapolitan and Marie Claire and her time on Project Runway.

She has so many fun stories to tell, and we're going to get into it right now.

We are going to the cottage.

That's right.

I finally get to talk to you guys about the only thing I've been thinking about for the past few weeks.

Of course, that is heated rivalry.

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