Hi, this is Natalie Hoffman of Flying Free Now.com, and you're listening to the

Flying Free Podcast, a support resource for Women of faith, looking for hope and healing from hidden

emotional and spiritual abuse.

Welcome to episode 26 of the Flying Free Podcast.

Today I have with me a beautiful butterfly named Brenna.

And yes, I realize that's a lot of alliteration, but I just couldn't help myself.

I had the privilege of getting to meet her face to face a couple of weekends ago at our second annual flying free retreat with about 50 other

beautiful butterflies. And when we got home from that retreat, we started, we wanted to be able to connect and continue building those relationships.

So we started a new Facebook group and inside of that Facebook group, Brenna shared a poem that

she had written about what it's like to live with covert or hidden

psychological abuse that you know that nobody else can see on the outside and

it was so all of us were just flabbergasted and I asked her if she would be

willing to share her poem with you guys because it's so so good and also I wanted to hear her read it again. So

Brenna graciously agreed to do that and also to just sit and talk with me a

little bit about what it's like to live with

covert abuse and maybe some of the you know how she figured out that that's what she

was dealing with and some of the steps that she's you know what what she's doing

today now with that understanding and information that she is realizing has

happened in her life so So welcome Brenna. Thank you Natalie. I'm super excited to be here

with you and very honored. So I think we'll start with your poem and then when we're done with that and people have blown their

noses and recovered we'll talk about what that poem actually means, okay?

That sounds good.

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