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🗓️ 16 December 2021
⏱️ 59 minutes
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Over a million people are members of a subreddit called r/AntiWork, whose slogan is "Unemployment for all, not just the rich." While the page and movement have been around for awhile, discontent with the state of the labor market has been growing since the pandemic. Many workers are refusing to accept the conditions and pay that were the norm prior to the virus. On this episode, we speak with Doreen Ford, who also goes by Doreen Cleyre. She is a moderator of the AntiWork subreddit as well as the founder of AbolishWork.com. Doreen explains the growth of the movement and its philosophical underpinnings.
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0:00.0 | Hello and welcome to another episode of the AdLots podcast. |
0:14.6 | I'm Joe Wasntal. |
0:16.9 | And I'm Kirstie Alloway. |
0:18.9 | Tracy, we've obviously done a number of episodes about the so-called labor shortage, |
0:24.8 | but as we kind of expressed, and it's sort of the case that we almost always hear about |
0:30.2 | this story from the perspective of a frustrated employer having trouble or finding solutions |
0:37.6 | to hiring people, but usually like we don't get the other side, which is the perspective |
0:42.4 | of frustrated workers and why workers may not be wanting to take jobs that they might |
0:47.0 | have taken pre-pandemic. |
0:48.5 | That's right. |
0:49.8 | So we hear a lot from companies or businesses that are saying, you know, all our workers |
0:55.1 | are resigning and we can't figure out why and we're giving them higher wages and we're |
0:59.0 | offering to pay their college tuition and we're providing flexible working arrangements |
1:04.2 | and still no one wants to come work for us. |
1:06.9 | And I think in one of our recent episodes, you were talking about starting a beige book |
1:11.7 | for the labor market, which might be able to get at some of this because in some respects, |
1:18.3 | it almost doesn't feel like an economic shift. |
1:20.2 | It kind of feels like a cultural one. |
1:22.2 | Yeah. |
1:23.2 | That's the thing. |
1:24.2 | Like everyone sort of poke around for different theories and I think they all hold like some |
1:28.5 | validity. |
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