This is Phoebe Judge from the IRS

Criminal

Vox Media Podcast Network

Society & Culture, True Crime

4.7 • 39.4K Ratings

🗓️ 5 September 2025

⏱️ 39 minutes

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Phoebe tries to scam an English grandmother named Daisy over the phone. But Daisy isn’t just any grandmother. Say hello on Facebook, Instagram and TikTok. Sign up for our occasional newsletter. Follow the show and review us on Apple Podcasts. Sign up for Criminal Plus to get behind-the-scenes bonus episodes of Criminal, ad-free listening of all of our shows, special merch deals, and more. We also make This is Love and Phoebe Reads a Mystery. Artwork by Julienne Alexander. Check out our online shop. Episode transcripts are posted on our website. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:33.5	Hi, it's Phoebe.
0:35.6	Before we start, I have a favor to ask. We've been thinking about ways to make
0:40.3	the show and Criminal Plus, our membership program, better. And we want to hear directly from you
0:46.1	about what you're enjoying, what you want more of, and what we can be doing better. We've put
0:52.3	together a survey at this iscriminal.com slash survey. It shouldn't take
0:57.3	long, and it would mean a lot if you could fill it out. Thanks very much.
1:04.7	Hello, Daisy speaking. Hello, Daisy. This is Phoebe Judge from the IRS. Oh, hello there, dear. Phoebe, what a lovely name. How can I help you today? Is everything all right? I do hope it's not about my taxes. They always confuse me a bit. Yes, I have to say you have made a mistake, and we've seen that you've underpaid your taxes by $30,000, and I'm calling to talk to you about
1:28.4	a payment plan.
1:31.1	I'm not really with the IRS.
1:33.6	I was just pretending to be, because I was trying to see if I could scam an English grandmother
1:38.6	named Daisy out of her savings.
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