Hello and welcome back to Maine Justice, 26.

This is our first episode in the new year.

It is Monday morning, January 5th.

I am Andrew Wiseman, and I am here with Mary McCord and Mary.

Before I turn to you, I want to say a joke that I heard

just last night, which is, you know, I've sort of tried on 2026. It doesn't really fit that

well. And so I'd like to return it. Okay. And what do we get in replacement for 2026, Andrew?

You know, I need to go back many, many years. So this is probably a long segue to, you know,

we had planned to lead off talking about tomorrow. And that is the anniversary of January 6th. And there's lots of pieces to that.

But as everyone who is listening to this knows, events overtook that. And we're still going to talk about that.

But obviously, we're going to talk about Venezuela. But I was thinking, Mary,

one thing that I was preparing for was this idea of resisting the legal transfer of power

through fomenting an insurrection.

And the other is fomenting in an insurrection.

The only difference is that in one case, with President Biden,

he was lawfully elected, and with Maduro,

he is an authoritarian who was widely viewed as not lawfully elected,

but it doesn't change the unlawful nature in both instances

of what President Trump was trying to do. And I hate to preview so far, but it's like to me,

I was trying to think of the connective way in which what just happened and what is widely viewed

as illegal in so many ways in Venezuela

was also widely viewed as illegal here in the United States. I was interested in your thoughts

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