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Deadline: White House

“This is all just a show of force”

Deadline: White House

Nicolle Wallace, MS NOW

Politics, News, Ms Now, Government, Nicolle Wallace, Daily News, Msnbc, Versant, The White House, Washington Dc

4.56.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 August 2025

⏱️ 55 minutes

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Summary

Nicolle Wallace on the continuing national guard presence in the nation’s capital, with rolling coverage of Illinois Governor JB Pritzker’s forceful speech against reported Trump administration plans to send troops to Chicago.

Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi there, everyone. It's 4 o'clock in the East. Maybe you are familiar with it, the frog in boiling water metaphor that seeks to illustrate the difference between sudden and gradual peril.

0:15.0

In one particular context, it prompts an important question. When will we know? When will we really know that we are

0:21.8

officially under authoritarian rule here? Remember that when you consider all of the breaking stories

0:28.1

and headlines we woke up to this morning. As we speak, there are more than 2,000 armed soldiers,

0:35.4

military, patrolling the streets of our nation's capital, Washington, D.C.

0:39.3

The Federal Task Force managing the D.C. takeover says that the majority of those troops are carrying

0:44.9

their service-issued M-17 pistols, while a number are packing M-4 rifles. At the moment, orders are

0:53.3

to use those weapons, quote, as a last resort in response to

0:57.2

an imminent threat of death or serious bodily harm. Troops are not making arrests, not yet at least.

1:04.1

We should be clear, members of the United States military are among the finest and bravest.

1:10.1

Most noble men and women, our country has to

1:13.0

offer period full stop. The fault in everything we discussed today does not lie with them,

1:19.5

but with the person giving them their orders, the country's elected commander-in-chief.

1:24.5

Donald Trump today, in the midst of signing executive orders, ending cashless bail,

1:29.3

and criminalizing flag burning, again, suggested he'll send troops to Chicago and maybe also

1:34.8

Baltimore, potentially putting nearly four million Americans under this dark new rule of law,

1:41.7

law and order regime in America. Then he said this.

1:46.8

As you all know, Chicago's a killing field right now. And they don't acknowledge it. And they say,

1:53.1

we don't need them. Freedom, freedom. He's a dictator. A lot of people are saying,

1:57.5

maybe we like a dictator. I don't like a dictator. I'm not a dictator.

2:02.2

I'm a man with great common sense and a smart person.

2:06.2

And when I see what's happening to our cities and then you send in troops, instead of being praised, they're saying you're trying to take over the republic.

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