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Money Tree Investing

This Hidden Bull Market Is Hiding In Plain Sight

Money Tree Investing

Money Tree Investing Podcast

Stockmarket, Valuestocks, Investing, Finance, Passiveincome, Wealth, Business, Personalfinance

4.6658 Ratings

🗓️ 14 May 2025

⏱️ 44 minutes

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Summary

This hidden bull market is actually lying in plain sight! Find out what it is today as we discuss media fear-mongering, unhelpful propaganda, Bitcoin and gold, and more. The central banks continue accumulating gold, emphasizing its historical role as a long-term store of value, and noting that despite the rise of digital assets like Bitcoin (which the U.S. now holds as a reserve), gold's cultural and material significance remains deeply embedded worldwide. Oh, and we also got a new Pope!

We discuss... 

  • A new Pope from the U.S., Pope Leo XIV (formerly Robert Prevost of Chicago), was elected, contradicting Jim Cramer's confident prediction.
  • The Pope had a 1% chance in betting markets, showing how off-market odds can be and how unexpected outcomes can deliver large returns.
  • A widely shared headline warned that Earth will run out of oxygen, but buried in the article was the timeline—1 billion years from now.
  • Climate change is a hard-to-measure issue that’s often politically weaponized and based on unprovable long-term models.
  • Propaganda exists across all eras and agendas, including pro-America messages like those in 80s movies such as Top Gun.
  • Spotting propaganda and political messaging can be useful for investors trying to understand broader narratives and their market implications.
  • Governments often downplay crises right before they hit, and historically, such reassurances can be a red flag to start worrying.
  • Recognizing themes in media, like global warming or military conflicts, can help investors anticipate policy moves or market shifts.
  • Nuclear energy is an example of a rational solution ignored for political reasons, illustrating how policy can ignore practical options.
  • Wealthy investors and central banks are buying more gold, reinforcing gold's role as a long-term store of value.
  • Gold continues to be culturally significant and trusted across civilizations, unlike newer assets like Bitcoin.
  • The U.S. government has decided to hold confiscated Bitcoin as a reserve asset, further legitimizing it in financial circles.
  • There's growing speculation that Bitcoin could evolve into a reserve asset for central banks, similar to gold.
  • Banks have transitioned from resisting Bitcoin to finding ways to monetize it, suggesting institutional acceptance is rising.
  • Gold has significantly outpaced wage growth since 2000, reinforcing its strength as a store of value amid stagnant real income.
  • Crypto has displaced silver as the inflation-hedge asset of choice among younger investors, hurting silver’s narrative.
  • Long-term tailwinds for silver include green tech applications like solar panels and EVs, which could reignite demand.
  • Gold and silver miners have underperformed despite rising bullion prices, with some major miners currently unprofitable.
  • Mining companies face structural inefficiencies, making many poor business models despite gold’s rise.
  • Institutional caution, reflected in moves by figures like Warren Buffett, indicates potential market hesitancy despite retail optimism.

 

Today's Panelists:

Kirk Chisholm | Innovative Wealth
Douglas Heagren | ProCollege Planners

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Money Tree Investing Podcast.

0:04.8

Stock market, wealth, personal finance, value stocks, invest in your life.

0:11.4

Hello, Smart Money Tree podcast listeners.

0:13.1

Welcome to the Sweet Show.

0:14.1

My name's Kirk Chisholm.

0:15.0

I'll be your host.

0:15.8

And today I'm joined with Doug Hagerin.

0:17.5

Hey, Doug.

0:18.3

Hey there, Kirk.

0:19.2

How you doing today?

0:19.9

Happy Friday.

0:23.2

Happy Friday. It's a new Friday. We've got a new Pope today. I have to say this is one of the funnier memes I've seen was

0:30.3

it was a tweet from Kramer, Jim Kramer. Those of you don't know, he's on CNBC usually in reports on

0:37.4

stocks.

0:38.1

And back in the day, it was a very good hedge fund manager, successful in his own right,

0:42.7

you know, a very smart guy.

0:44.2

And ever since he started working on CNBC, he's become the whipping boy of just about everybody.

0:48.7

So anytime he makes a claim, it is usually a good indication that you should do the opposite.

0:53.4

There's actually an ETF called the inverse Kramer, which is we do the indication that you should do the opposite. There's actually an

0:54.3

ETF called the inverse Kramer, which is we do the exact opposite of what Kramer says and you can make

0:58.9

lots of money. It's gotten that ridiculous. Anyway, so he put out a tweet, which said, one thing is

1:04.7

certain, the new pope will not be American. And of course, we got a U.S. Pope. So congratulations to Pope Leo the 14th from Chicago. So

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