So it's been over a year now of some of the worst atrocities committed in the 21st century, the mass slaughter and maiming as well, really important, unfortunately to have to make that point of huge numbers of Palestinian people in Gaza, as well as all the trauma,

the forcible repeated mass displacements, the basics of life being besieged, the destruction of the health care system,

which is a point which a UN Commission report has just made, that is a concerted attempt, deliberate

attempt, to destroy the health healthcare system, which they say is tantamount to the

crime against humanity of extermination. Now in the context of all this, we know of course that Palestinian doctors, nurses, paramedics have been doing the most incredible work in the most unimaginable circumstances.

Many of them have been killed.

There has been a mass slaughter of Palestinian medics, often or too often with their families.

And also their incarceration and doctors have been killed in Israeli incarceration, torture, you name it.

As well as that, there have been large numbers or significant numbers of doctors, medics, nurses from around the world who have gone to Gaza to try and help the Palestinian medical system in the state of collapse

during apocalyptic conditions.

And one of them is the brilliant doctor,

Anna Gilani, who is a consultant pediatric orthopedic surgeon who was currently not

far from I grew up but was in Gaza twice this year March 2024 this year for two weeks at al.

Ax the hospital, which people will know about because it has just been bombed

by the Israeli state and we saw

horrifically a young Palestinian being burned alive or well attached

an IV drip and then another month in September at NASA Hospital can't give this.

Anna Fuzzi thank you so much for Donius.

Thank you for having me Owen.

And thank you for listening for what I want to say.

That's the most important part of what I do, so thank you.

I would just for the start actually in terms of those, I guess, maybe still in denial after a year of this,

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