Just puts out.

Well, I'm fortunate to be joined today by a New York City attorney and sort of a polarizing figure on social media this week with some opinions that are widely, well, at least pretended to be unpopular in New York City.

Shania Shakoon.

Pat, it's wonderful to be with you.

Thank you so much.

Thanks.

You're happy.

I'm so happy you could join, you know.

I mean, like I've been watching this past week.

Now you had some kind of a, it's an altercation. I don't think

you meant it to be an altercation, but you were, you saw an unlicensed vendor and you

began to, you asked to see a permit. It was completely reasonable, although everybody knows

that there's, there was not one to be produced so uh what how did that go so um

yeah i i i really um it didn't go well let's just say say that so um i'm a lawyer i studied in the u UK. I have a New York bar and I lived abroad in the

Middle East for a very long time. And I lived in places where there's huge emphasis on law and order

and things working the way they're supposed to work. So I came up from the river at 96th Street

and found this woman, two women, kind of like making a huge mess with bags and stuff.

And then they'd set up a picnic table. And one of them came up to me and was like, do you want to

buy from us? And was like, well, do you have a food permit?

That's a perfectly reasonable question.

I mean, since they're soliciting your business, you know, like, well, before I do.

She talked to me first.

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