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Marriage Kids and Money: Personal Finance for Families

Third Option Between Working and Retiring (Afford Anything Podcast w/ Paula Pant) (BEST OF MKM)

Marriage Kids and Money: Personal Finance for Families

Andy Hill

Investing, Business, Kids & Family, Parenting

4.9604 Ratings

🗓️ 31 December 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

What if there was a third option between grinding it out in corporate life and chasing extreme early retirement? What if you could work less, be more present with your family, and still feel confident about your financial future? In today’s episode, I join Paula Pant on her top-ranked podcast, Afford Anything, to talk about the middle ground between traditional employment and full FIRE. We dive into Coast FIRE, part-time work, and what it really takes to own your time while raising kids. I share how my wife and I structured our lives to both work part time, stay involved with our kids, and still build long term wealth without burning out. This conversation is part of our Best of MKM series and was originally recorded live at FinCon in Portland. Paula and I walk through my 10-step framework for owning your time, including how to reduce financial anxiety, eliminate debt, invest with intention, and design a three-day work week that supports your family and your health. We also talk candidly about parenting, identity, lifestyle tradeoffs, and how to model a life of freedom and generosity for your kids. If you are tired of living for the weekend and want a realistic path to more time freedom, this conversation will open your eyes to what is possible. CHAPTERS 🎧 0:00 Intro and Best of MKM setup 1:10 Meeting Paula Pant and Afford Anything 2:30 Why two working parents chose part time work 5:10 Designing a balanced family schedule 8:00 Being present during pivotal childhood years 12:05 Identity beyond work 15:10 The 10 steps to owning your time 18:00 Eliminating debt and financial anxiety 22:00 Reaching Coast FIRE 25:30 Why paying off the mortgage matters 30:00 FU money and career flexibility 35:00 Designing a three day work week 40:00 Health insurance outside corporate life 45:00 Avoiding lifestyle creep 50:00 Teaching kids generational wealth habits 1:00:30 Where to learn more about Andy and Own Your Time RESOURCES 📚 Own Your Timehttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/book Track Your Spending and Net Worth with Monarch Moneyhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/monarchmoney Coast FIRE Calculatorhttps://marriagekidsandmoney.com/calculators/coast-fire/ Afford Anything Podcasthttps://affordanything.com HOW WE MAKE MONEY + DISCLAIMER ⚠️ This show may contain affiliate links or links from our sponsors where we earn a commission, direct payment, or products at no extra cost to you. Opinions are our own. Information shared on this podcast is for entertainment purposes only and should not be considered professional financial advice. Always seek the guidance of a licensed financial professional for your specific situation. Marriage Kids and Money (https://www.marriagekidsandmoney.com) is a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for sites to earn advertising fees by linking to Amazon.com. CREDITS 🎙️ Podcast Artwork: Kayli Johnson Editor: Johnny Sohl Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Olivia Culpo here to tell you all about the launch of the new Abercrombie spring denim collection,

0:05.5

made the way denim should feel. Their denim has always been a staple in my wardrobe and has a wide range of fits,

0:11.4

styles, and washes. Every jean is available in both their classic fit and viral curve love.

0:17.5

Shop in the app, online, and in stores.

0:34.7

I would finish my workday on Friday, but my brain wouldn't turn off from those assignments until like, whatever, Saturday at like 6 p.m. And then on Sunday,

0:39.5

I'm starting to get the Sunday scurries again, and I'm starting to think about it. So really my

0:43.2

time for relaxation outside of work was maybe like eight hours. And work was just consuming

0:48.9

everything for me. So in order for my brain to calm down a little bit, I really need to make a buffer

0:53.4

of time so I'm actually able to enjoy my weekend. So for bit, I really need to make a buffer of time so

0:54.4

I'm actually able to enjoy my weekend.

0:56.2

So for me, I'm trying to just not work on Fridays at all.

0:59.2

For me, I'm not doing the full four day weekend yet.

1:01.4

That's like a long-term goal for me.

1:02.9

Right now I'm working a half a day on Monday.

1:04.7

But long-term, I would love to experience that three-day work weekend, four-day weekend.

1:19.7

This show is dedicated to helping you, strengthen your family tree, and live financially free.

1:21.8

Welcome to the Marriage Kids and Money podcast, everybody.

1:23.2

This is Andy Hill.

1:27.8

And today we're bringing you another best of MKM episode.

1:33.1

This is the last best of MKM episode for the holiday season.

1:35.8

Next week we're going to be coming back with new episodes,

1:38.3

but spend it a little time with my family today.

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