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Hey everyone, it's Ellie here.

Each Friday on the third degree podcast, I speak with a rotating cast of some of the nation's top law students about breaking legal news, compelling cases, and what it means to lead a life in the law.

Today, we're sharing a sample from my conversation with NYU law student, Safina Meckle.

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price. Just head to cafe.com slash insider and enter the special code degree. That's cafe.com

slash insider and the discount code degree. What was it like for you, actually, the moment that you learned there was a verdict and how you

took in that verdict?

You know, it was weird because it was a moment in which I really missed being on campus.

It's been a year, obviously, of remote learning.

And it was one of the moments where I really missed the absence

of being surrounded by my community and my friends. I was lucky because now that I'm fully vaccinated,

I was able to fly home to be with my parents. So I'm home with my parents. I was watching TV on my

iPad and kind of wandering around the house waiting for the verdict to come out while frantically

texting everyone that I knew about the verdict. And, you know, looking back at the text messages

during the day, I got a couple questions from friends about when do we think it's going to come out.

Then we were waiting. And then one of my friends texted me while we were waiting for the verdict,

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