Hello everybody and welcome back to Revolutionary Left Radio.

On today's episode we have a really fun one, a challenging one, an interesting one.

Hopefully this is a conversation that you really can't find in a lot of other places.

I have on Michael Carter from New York DSA to talk about the electoral strategy, basically

from a Marxist perspective, defending some elements of supporting like a Bernie style,

candidacy, some of the contradictions within electoralism broadly, and just a lot of really

interesting ideas and some, you know, breaking through some of the black and white thinking

that occurs on the topic of electoralism, some of the simplistic thinking on one way or

the other that you can find on the left.

And we end this long discussion with basically playing out a few different scenarios.

And I think it's really interesting that we do that.

One of the scenarios is what if Bernie goes on to win, what obstacles will he face?

One of the scenarios is what if Bernie is robbed, either in the primaries or let's say

he goes on to win and actually gets some sort of internal sabotage or coup against him,

or what if Bernie wins the primaries, goes on to get defeated handedly by Trump, right?

All these different scenarios, Michael and I play out and think through.

And so I think this sort of thinking, strategic thinking on the left is really important,

is going to be only more important in the months to come.

Before I get into that episode though, I do want to give a shout out to friend of the

show, multiple time guest, the litcric guy, John Greenaway.

He has produced three guides, basically guides on Marx, Jameson, Frederick Jameson, and

Antonio Gromschi.

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