Thinking Straight (Pt 7): The ban
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The Times
3.9 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 17 September 2021
⏱️ 39 minutes
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Summary
Attempts at conversion therapy are taking place across the country: in village churches, Harley Street clinics and counsellors' treatment rooms.
In this final episode of a seven-part series, reporter Emily Sargent turns her attention to Westminster.
What's happened in the three years since the Government pledged to end the practice of conversion therapy?
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Guests:
Matthew Hyndman, co-founder, Ban Conversion Therapy.
Jayne Ozanne, director and founder, Ozanne Foundation; chair, Ban Conversion Therapy Coalition.
Reverend Jide Macaulay, founding Pastor and CEO, House Of Rainbow.
Joe Hyman, LGBTQ+ activist and conversion therapy survivor.
Peter Lynas, UK director, Evangelical Alliance.
Chris Csabs, co-author and co-founder, SOGICE Survivors.
Host: Emily Sargent, journalist.
Clips: X-Out-Loud, BBC, Core Issues Trust, ITV.
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, I'm John Curtis, and I'm Rachel Wolf. |
| 0:05.2 | We want to tell you about our new podcast, Trendy from Toy Toys. |
| 0:09.6 | It's all about what people think and why politicians do what they do. |
| 0:14.1 | Each week we're going to look at the most important social, political and economic trends, |
| 0:18.8 | in the hope that we can come to a better understanding of where we are as a country. |
| 0:23.0 | New episodes will be available every Thursday morning. |
| 0:25.9 | Search for Trendy, wherever you get your podcast. |
| 0:34.6 | Hello, it's Manvine here. |
| 0:36.4 | Today I'm handing the podcast over to the journalist Emily Sargent |
| 0:40.5 | for the final part of her special investigation. |
| 0:43.1 | And if you haven't heard the rest of the series, do go back and have a listen. |
| 0:46.7 | I can't recommend it enough. |
| 0:48.6 | And she's looking at a fascinating, and until now, |
| 0:51.7 | extremely secretive practice that still takes place all over the country, conversion therapy. |
| 0:59.0 | This is Thinking Straight. |
| 1:06.1 | Last time on Thinking Straight. |
| 1:09.2 | We need to call it conversion abuse. It's certainly not a therapy. |
| 1:12.6 | Whatever that practice might be, it devalues that person, makes that person feel that they are somehow wrong, |
| 1:19.8 | somehow need fixing, somehow broken. |
| 1:22.0 | It is our vision and mission to raise an army of formerly gay, lesbian, bisexual and transgender individuals. |
| 1:31.7 | It's been over three years since the government pledged to end conversion therapy in the UK. |
| 1:38.2 | On the gay conversion therapy, I think that's absolutely abhorrent |
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