Well, hi there and thanks for joining us again. This is Thinking Sideways, the podcast

in I.M. Steve, as always, join by Joe, hello, and Devon, who I like to introduce.

Instead of letting us do it for ourselves, I can't always remember my own name, so it's

a good thing. I got to micromanage this stuff, you know what, we need a micromanager.

Yeah, we do. Okay, well, today we're going to get into a story that I've been really looking

forward to sharing with everybody. As you two know, but our listeners probably don't. Recently,

I was in England. It's just such a long time. Well, yeah, it's such an extended amount

of time. But when I was there, I, of course, was touring around London and I got the chance

to go to the Tower of London and was reminded of a story that I heard of, but it never really

thought much of until I actually got to see the site where a bunch of the action happened.

By the way, it just isn't a site. I was the first time I saw the Tower of London myself.

I was kind of surprised because I was expecting an actual tower. It's like a fortress, you know.

It's a castle. Yeah, it's very cool, but where's the tower? There's several of them.

Yeah, they're short towers. They're short squat towers. They don't really look like towers.

I just remember how giant the Ravens are. The Ravens? Oh, yes, they are disturbingly big

giant there. Well, they're hand fed basically. Yeah, there's seven of them. There has to be seven

on the grounds and all times or the monarchy falls. Is that what the legend is? Oh, really? Yeah,

they not know about this particular story. Yes, I, I, seven might not be the right number,

but I know that they're, maybe it's nine, but they have to have them on the grounds. And they're,

they're big. They're monster. I mean, like Ravens, you see how kind of like when you are hiking

around here, not crows, but Ravens are not as big as these things. And maybe it's because

I was a kid when I saw them, but like, I remember them being giant. Yes. Yeah. Well, they are

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