Well, hello, everybody. Welcome to the Thinking Fellows podcast. My name is Caleb Keith, and I am

joined by Adam Francisco and Scott Keith. Today, we are live at the Here We Still Stand regional event

in Bentonville, Arkansas. So thank you for joining us. Live podcasts are always fun for us.

We record at the wee hours in the morning all alone in our offices, usually. So it's a treat to

see some faces as we record, instead of just staring at the computer screen. At the conference,

we do have a book table, and you should definitely go check out some

books. And if you're listening to this, you should go to shop.1517.org to go buy some books.

I have our newest book here. It's called Sinner Saint. And you can see it here. I think

you guys should check it out. I've been skimming it. It covers

a very important and I think overlooked topic of the simile. That's simultaneously sinner and saint.

And there's some great sections in here. In fact, I've been reading a little bit. And I think

the sections on the myths about sanctification are phenomenal.

I think this is like a must read.

So everybody should go pick this up.

Luke is a Lutheran brethren pastor.

He, I never heard of him before in my life.

And he spoke at one of our conferences.

I want, if Dan Price around around i want to say it was

five years ago maybe back when we were doing uh the city event conferences and he was at the

conference in um where gretchen lives in minnesota a very cold part of part of the world

fergus falls that's it and he did, his talk was on the simile

or at the same time, Satan's Center. And it was outstanding. And this is one of the first

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