Thinking about the Roman Empire every three minutes (with Ian McEwan)

Off Air with Jane & Fi

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4.7 • 884 Ratings

🗓️ 16 September 2025

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Calling all Davids! This one’s for you. Jane M and Fi dive into everything from beard-growing and cycling to hormones and being triggered in East London.

Later, Roya Nikkhah, royal editor of The Sunday Times, speaks with best-selling author Ian McEwan about his new novel 'What We Can Know', set a hundred years in the future in a UK partially submerged by rising seas.

We've announced our next book club pick! 'Just Kids' is by Patti Smith.

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0:00.0	I think I may have a little bit too much of it myself.
0:03.2	Testosterone.
0:05.2	Interesting.
0:06.3	Why did you say that?
0:07.3	Full beard.
0:08.4	Constant vigilance.
0:11.8	Five o'clock shadow.
0:14.0	Wet shave or dry shave.
0:19.3	Amazon brings the UEFA Champions League.
0:21.6	Unbelievable.
0:24.6	With Tuesday's unmissable match.
0:26.6	Enchontingly wonderful.
0:29.6	World-class players.
0:32.6	Zeller!
0:34.6	What a strike!
0:36.6	Incredible drama.
0:38.3	And Harlan!
0:40.7	History in the making.
0:42.7	Rice would take two!
0:44.9	The UEFA Champions League.
0:48.0	It's on Prime.
0:49.6	Join our family day out and help build the new Children's cancer centre at Great Ormond Street Hospital.
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