Think Twice: About Abundance with Derek Thompson

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🗓️ 28 March 2025

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Reporter and podcaster Derek Thompson says we’re better at recognizing problems, but our ability to solve them has not improved. How can we make sure meaningful progress occurs? In this conversation with Open to Debate guest moderator Nayeema Raza, Thompson will discuss his new book “Abundance,” rethinking yesterday’s issues to address today’s problems, and what both sides of the political aisle should learn to ensure we have a more abundant society. Our Guest: Derek Thompson, Staff Writer at The Atlantic; Author of the "Work in Progress" Newsletter Nayeema Raza, Journalist and Host of "Smart Girl Dumb Questions", is the guest moderator. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:29.6	And right now, the Democratic Party is unbelievably unpopular, polling at 29% nationally. That's the
0:35.5	worst in the history of the poll, and quite ineffective in many of the places they hold the most power.
0:40.5	It's astonishing.
0:41.9	I believe they're even less popular than Donald Trump at this point.
0:45.4	They're considerably less popular than Donald Trump.
0:48.3	Donald Trump looks like Taylor Swift next to the brand of the Democratic Party right now.
0:53.1	This is open to debate. I'm John Donvan. Hi, everybody. Today, a conversation for our
0:57.2	Think Twice book series, Naima Raza, journalist and host of the show, Smart Girl, Dumb
1:02.0	Questions, talks with Derek Thompson, co-author of the new book, Abundance. Enjoy this time
1:08.2	the conversation, please. And now over to Naima. We're in the midst of a
1:12.1	fundamental shift in American politics, and I'm about to interview the co-author of a book that
1:16.8	some are saying will be to the Democratic Party what Project 2025 was to Donald Trump's re-rise.
1:23.0	That is, an agenda-setting roadmap for the next four years, which I guess actually makes this more
1:28.4	like Project 2029. The book, Abundance by Derek Thompson and Ezra Klein, is about a political
1:34.1	project, a liberal agenda. And this show is squarely not about that. Open to Debate is a
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