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Explain It to Me

Think like a scout

Explain It to Me

Vox Media Podcast Network

Education, Politics, News, Society & Culture

4.47.9K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2021

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Matt is joined by author and podcast host Julia Galef to talk about her new book The Scout Mindset. They talk about the difference between epistemic and social confidence, the role of uncertainty in thinking critically, and — most of all — about fighting with people on the internet. Resources: The Scout Mindset: Why Some People See Things Clearly and Others Don't by Julia Galef (Apr. 2021) Guest: Julia Galef (@juliagalef), Author, host of the Rationally Speaking podcast Host: Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias), Slowboring.com Credits: Erikk Geannikis, Editor and Producer As the Biden administration gears up, we'll help you understand this unprecedented burst of policymaking. Sign up for The Weeds newsletter each Friday: vox.com/weeds-newsletter. The Weeds is a Vox Media Podcast Network production. Want to support The Weeds? Please consider making a contribution to Vox: bit.ly/givepodcasts About Vox Vox is a news network that helps you cut through the noise and understand what's really driving the events in the headlines. Follow Us: Vox.com Facebook group: The Weeds Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

And my guest today, Julia Gaelif, is the author of a really great new book called The Scout Mindset.

0:05.0

I was a guest on her podcast,

0:07.0

rationally speaking recently. We had a conversation of epic length on that one.

0:12.0

Today I tried to give you something more normal, wean's length.

0:15.0

But you know, we talk about the book, we talk about the fine art of arguing on the internet,

0:20.0

how to think better, how to maybe even argue on the internet better,

0:23.0

why we both don't like debates.

0:26.0

It's really good conversation. I learned a lot from the book.

0:29.0

I think you learn a lot from listening to me chat with Julia.

0:33.0

Hello, welcome to another episode of the Weans on the Box Media Podcast Network.

0:44.0

I'm Matthew Glacius, my guest today is Julia Gaelif.

0:47.0

She is an author, podcaster.

0:49.0

I was on her show rationally speaking recently,

0:52.0

but she has a new book out that is called The Scout Mindset.

0:56.0

I think it's really cool. So welcome to the show.

0:58.0

Thank you. It's so great to be here.

1:00.0

Yeah. So what is The Scout Mindset? Who are The Scouts?

1:04.0

Yeah. The Scout Mindset is the title of my book,

1:07.0

and also my term for the motivation to see things as they are,

1:12.0

and not as you wish they were.

1:14.0

So it's part of this kind of framing metaphor of the book,

1:17.0

in which I say that humans in general by default are often in what I call soldier mindset,

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