Things Men Don't Say Out Loud
On The Mend
High Performance
4.9 • 566 Ratings
🗓️ 8 May 2026
⏱️ 58 minutes
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Summary
This special roundtable episode explores the vital role of mental fitness in reaching and sustaining peak performance.
In this special roundtable episode, in partnership with BetterHelp, hosts Jake Humphrey, Spencer Matthews, and Matt Willis reframe therapy as an essential "performance tool." By comparing mental maintenance to physical training, the trio highlights how proactive support is key to navigating the pressures of modern life and sustaining peak performance.
This conversation explores personal breakthroughs, from Jake’s experience with "Pure O" to Matt’s discovery of the power in asking, "How do I feel?" They discuss the value of having a "mental adult" in the room, a confidential professional who allows you to offload internal noise without the fear of burdening friends or family.
Whether you are facing a crisis or simply seeking self-understanding, this episode demonstrates that therapy provides the clarity needed to show up as your best self. It is a raw, unscripted reminder that seeking support is a proactive choice for anyone committed to long-term resilience and growth.
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| 0:00.0 | Want to know who's coming up next? Hit follow wherever you get your podcast and you'll be the first to find out. |
| 0:05.5 | Throughout loads of episodes of On The Men, we've heard from our male guests that they felt so much pressure to not show weakness. |
| 0:11.2 | But that narrative has shifted slightly. And now we're suddenly asking men to open up and wondering why that feels so hard. |
| 0:17.6 | So today, I'm joined by two podcasting legends, Jake Humphrey from high performance and Spencer Matthews from Untapped. And we're having a conversation that if we're honest, a lot of men still avoid. We cover what's actually going on in our lives, why often it's so difficult to say our problems out loud and what we can start to do differently. This is part of Say It Louder. Our initiative, we're running with better help |
| 0:37.9 | over the next few months, where we're on a mission to encourage men to talk. Let's get into it. |
| 0:46.8 | Right. Shall we break the ice? Are either of you currently in therapy? |
| 0:52.8 | Do you know what? I'm not right now. |
| 0:54.5 | I have been recently, but I'm not at the moment. |
| 0:59.3 | But I've been in therapy a lot in my life. |
| 1:02.1 | Yeah, but I'm not right now at this moment. |
| 1:04.0 | Similar to you, Matt. |
| 1:04.9 | I've kind of had periods of my life where I've been in therapy, |
| 1:09.1 | you know, like once a week for an hour, every week. |
| 1:12.7 | And I'm not right now, although I still have contact with my therapist. |
| 1:17.7 | There are times in my life where I feel like I need it more than other times, but also I'm a |
| 1:21.7 | massive believer in having it when you're not in crisis, when you you don't feel you need it like a kind of |
| 1:29.4 | maintenance act almost yeah yeah i actually quite like the sitting with him in this case and |
| 1:37.7 | just talking completely openly about yourself for for a full hour right it's quite refreshing. My wife would say that I'm |
| 1:47.3 | selfish anyway, but like it's quite hard. Never had you doubt if someone wants to talk about himself |
| 1:52.0 | an hour, did you? Do you know what I mean? Definitely not. Have you not? Okay, good. There's obviously |
| 1:56.6 | been great progress made in recent years. Your therapist has done a great job on you now. Thank you, Jake. Give me his number. Yeah, yeah. So, I don't know, it is interesting, isn't it, though? If something is bothering you or you want a clear path through something, to sit even with a good friend and talk about yourself for a full hour, is quite indulgent, it feels quite self-indulgent. Whereas in therapy obviously that's the point of it. |
| 2:18.8 | I think also the last time I went to |
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