Welcome back to the podcast, bribe, swindle, or steel. I'm Alexandra Rogge, and today we're

listening in on a great panel hosted by the College of Journalism and the School of Public Policy

at the University of Maryland. Our speaker, their speaker, is Drew Sullivan.

Drew is the co-founder and editor of the organized crime and corruption reporting project.

The OCCRP is a global network of journalism partners that has done some great work,

which Drew will describe.

They have also won the Trace Prize for Investigative Reporting.

I'll turn this over to Drew now, and you can hear from him that things are way worse than we know.

I am the co-founder, editor, and publisher of the organized crime and corruption reporting project, just to give you a sense of who we are.

We're basically a network of partner organizations.

Think of us as kind of the Uber of investigative reporting.

We're a bunch of editors. We have no journalists. And we borrow our journalists from 52 partners

and hundreds of publishing partners and other organizations around the world. We're kind of a

platform for investigative reporting. We have the research, the data work, the security, the financing

and other things, and then we tie all these together in large international cross-border projects.

The effect of this is pretty significant, the cross-border work that ICIJ, which is today

represented by Amelia, their longtime partners of OCCRP. This is very

effective in the sense that when you have a large number of newspapers publishing at once,

a particular project, it does have some impact on corruption. We've had about $7.7 billion

seized since we started over through five presidents, prime ministers, over 600 arrests.

You can have some great impact if you get everybody working together.

We started off in Eastern Europe, but now we're working around the world, typically with

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