All right, so I'm going to press record Phoebe, this guy here.

Hello, hello.

Okay, so Russ, she sounds good?

Okay, and we're recording.

Okay.

Lauren, how long have you wanted to be the host of a true crime podcast?

Two years ago, when Lauren Spore and I started recording bonus episodes for Criminal Plus subscribers,

we were still trying to figure this whole thing out. We started the Criminal Plus membership

because we wanted to give you a way to support our work directly,

and thank you for it with special perks, like listening to our shows without ads,

coming to special events like trivia nights and live tapings,

and getting twice-monthly bonus episodes with me and Lauren.

We've had a lot of fun making Criminal Plus episodes over the past two years. We've recorded

behind the scenes during our onstage live shows and recording trips. We've caught up with past

guests and friends of the show, and we've answered lots of your questions along the way.

We have big goals this year for Criminal Plus. It's an important part of how we keep our shows going,

now that ad sales aren't as dependable as they used to be.

And we're hoping that if you aren't already a member,

that you might consider becoming one.

If you'd like to support our work,

for a limited time you can use the promo code,

join us, that's J-O-I-N code, Join Us, for 20% off of an annual

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