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The Way Out Is In

Thich Nhat Hanh: Zen Master and Simple Monk (Episode #8)

The Way Out Is In

Plum Village

Education, Religion & Spirituality, Self-improvement, Buddhism, Mental Health, Health & Fitness

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🗓️ 7 October 2021

⏱️ 87 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to episode eight of The Way Out Is In: The Zen Art of Living, a podcast series mirroring Zen Master Thich Nhat Hanh’s deep teachings of Buddhist philosophy: a simple yet profound methodology for dealing with our suffering, and for creating more happiness and joy in our lives.In this episode, on the eve of Thich Nhat Hanh’s 95th birthday (or continuation day), presenters Zen Buddhist monk Brother Phap Huu and lay Buddhist practitioner and journalist Jo Confino take a walk down memory lane, remembering behind-the-scenes stories about Thay (Vietnamese for “teacher”): the humble monk, rather than his well-known public persona as spiritual teacher.They do so in Sitting Still Hut in Upper Hamlet, Thay’s residence during his years in Plum Village. By taking a tour of the hut, they trace the teacher’s daily routine and linger over the minimal but essential objects in his life. With fine strokes, the conversation portrays Thay the gardener and community builder, his (compassionate) fierceness, his incredible memory, and his ability to turn complex teachings into simple, accessible ones.  Through many memories, Jo and Phap Huu muse about minimalism, sharing, consumerism, simplicity, the beginner’s mind, being grounded, nourishing humility and humbleness, the power of smiles, and some of Thay’s major teachings and legacies.Befittingly, Brother Phap Huu ends the episode with a guided meditation. Happy continuation day, dear Thay! Co-produced by the Plum Village App:https://plumvillage.app/ And Global Optimism:https://globaloptimism.com/ With support from the Thich Nhat Hanh Foundation:https://thichnhathanhfoundation.org/ List of resources  A Precious Gift for Thich Nhat Hanh’s 95th Continuation Day: Deep Listening for Mother Earthhttps://plumvillage.org/articles/giftforthay/ The Toadskin Hut and Paths of Legendhttps://plumvillage.org/about/thich-nhat-hanh/letters/the-toadskin-hut-and-paths-of-legend/ Anger: Wisdom for Cooling the Flameshttps://www.parallax.org/product/anger/ Sister Chan Khonghttps://plumvillage.org/about/sister-chan-khong/ Dalai Lamahttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalai_Lama Joan Miróhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joan_Mir%C3%B3 Beginner’s mind (shoshin)https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shoshin Plum Village Practice Centershttps://plumvillage.org/monastic-practice-centres/ Plum Village Hamletshttps://plumvillage.org/retreats/visiting-us/hamlet/ Deer Park Monasteryhttps://deerparkmonastery.org/ Quotes“Simplicity and nothing extra: everything in the hut is something that he uses and has a meaning.”  “Humility comes through action; not through what you say, but through how you live.” “Meditation is the capacity to really be in the present moment to connect to oneself and to others.” “In Buddhism, we have to learn to identify the simple joys in our life and our simple happiness. We may think that happiness is something very far away, something that we have to work hard to achieve. But if you touch the present moment and are really in touch with what you have right here, right now, are you sure that those conditions aren’t enough for you to be happy?” “Thay made the teachings so simple just by the way he walked, by the way he was there with us.” “Thay’s way of renewing Buddhism is to make the teachings of the Buddha and the teachings of mindfulness part of everyday life. And it’s not something that you seek for 10 or 20 years of practice, then say, ‘I got it’; you can say ‘I got it’ in this very moment.”  “It’s only when you go very deep into something that you can make it simple.” “In our daily life, it is okay to make mistakes. But to continue, to move forward, we have to stand up and we have to clean up our mistakes.” “Thay often talks about the fact that the Buddha was not a god, but a human being. And I think, by teaching that, he’s saying that anyone can be like the Buddha. The Buddha wasn’

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0:00.0

And the Hello and welcome to another episode of The Way Out is in podcast.

0:25.0

I am Joe Kofino, working at the intersection

0:27.6

of personal transformation and systems change.

0:30.5

And I am Brother Faphoo, a Zen Buddhist monk in the tradition of Zen master Tiknichan in the same.

0:46.0

Out is in. Today we are going to talk about Zen Master Tignatan as a simple monk because actually most people think of Thai, as he's known, as one of the greatest spiritual teachers of the 20th century in the early 21st century.

1:21.0

But Brother Fapu, you were his attendant for 17 years and I think what's what would be really lovely is to know the man behind the the robes I suppose because most people know Thai through his books, hundreds of thousands,

1:39.2

millions of copies sold and also through his dama talks which are online. But very few people know him as just a human being.

1:49.0

Yes, I'll be really honored to take this opportunity to also share the stories and the experience that I've had throughout my years with him and seeing him in daily life.

2:05.6

And I think this is something that a lot of friends

2:09.1

who have heard about, our teacher,

2:11.7

wouldn't have had the chance to experience.

2:14.0

And today, very special, we are sitting in his hut in the upper hamlet in Plum Village.

2:21.0

And the hut's name is Sitting Still Hot.

2:25.0

And I remembered the first few days as his attendant

2:31.0

when I was in the Hut, Tais said, to be with Tai, you have to know how to sit still.

2:38.8

And it's true to the name of the hut.

2:41.6

And as a meditation practitioner one of our core practices is learning to enjoy sitting

2:50.3

meditation and we have to see that meditation is not labor, but

2:56.3

meditation is something that you can enjoy in daily life. And this is something that Thai which means teacher in Vietnamese

3:06.1

this is why we call him Thai even for all of our Western our Westerner

3:12.0

friends who come here they also call him Thai.

3:14.4

This is something that I always sense when I'm around Thai

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