Thibs Fired: What Now for the Knicks? Plus, a Pacers Deep Dive With Caitlin Cooper and Throwback Thunder Time With Jeff Green and Kendrick Perkins.

The Zach Lowe Show

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Basketball, Sports

5 • 1.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2025

⏱️ 105 minutes

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Zach begins by reacting to the news out of New York (2:09): What happened, why, and what does the future hold for the Knicks? Then, an Indiana-centric look at the Finals with Caitlin Cooper and a dissection of the matchup from all angles (29:17). And finally, Zach welcomes Jeff Green (59:38) and Kendrick Perkins (1:20:32) for some OKC Thunder nostalgia as the city gets set to host the NBA Finals. Host: Zach Lowe Guests: Caitlin Cooper, Jeff Green, and Kendrick Perkins Producers: Jesse Aron, Jonathan Frias, and Isaiah Blakely The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available. Get started today at HubSpot.com/AI. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	All right, coming up on the Zach Lowe show. It's a loaded Wednesday show. Normally we go Thursday. We switch it up this week because of news and the way the final schedule rolls. So roll with us. We open up. We're going to talk about Tom Thibito and the Knicks. The Knicks firing their coach with $30 million left on his contract and coming off the most successful season they've had in a gazillion years why'd they do it well talk about that what comes next that's a big question for the nicks
0:25.8	better nail better nail is higher and then it's an NBA final schmorgasborg i already did my
0:31.1	deep dive preview with kirk goldsbury on monday on the zach low show but we're going even
0:35.2	further because it's the NBA finals the pac Pacers, they're huge underdogs.
0:38.8	Caitlin Cooper of the basketball.
0:40.7	She wrote Patreon of Pacers genius X's and O's the whole thing tells us, where can they
0:46.1	attack?
0:46.6	Are there little places in the Thunder defensive juggernaut to prick at?
0:50.4	Do they have any hope?
0:51.7	What about on offense?
0:53.1	How can they stop Shea Gildes or Alexander? How are they going to do? She's going to tell us, you're going to come out of this so much smarter. You're going to know what to look for, what the Pacers are going to try to do to make this a series. And then some Oklahoma City alumni tell good stories about the good old days in Oklahoma City and what it means for them to see the
1:11.2	thunder back in the NBA finals all these years later. We might roll out a couple more of these
1:15.3	as the finals goes on. That's all coming up on today's Zach Lowe show.
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