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The Secret To Success with CJ, Karl, Jemal & Eric Thomas

They Won't Recognize the New You (And That's the Point) | S2S 544

The Secret To Success with CJ, Karl, Jemal & Eric Thomas

S2S podcast

Education, Business, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Entrepreneurship

4.96.6K Ratings

🗓️ 4 June 2026

⏱️ 47 minutes

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Summary

You're changing. You're growing. You're stepping into who you were always meant to be. And the people closest to you don't recognize you anymore. They look at you funny. They treat you different. They make you feel like you're doing something wrong. But here's the truth: if they don't recognize the new you, you're doing it right. In Episode 544, the crew dives into one of the most uncomfortable truths about transformation. The people who knew you before your change are often the ones who resist it the most. Not because they don't love you. But because your growth exposes where they're still stuck. And instead of celebrating your elevation, they start acting awkward, distant, or downright hostile. ET breaks down the Harriet Tubman principle: she didn't carry a gun for her enemies. She carried it for the people she was trying to free. Because the ones closest to you are the ones most likely to snitch, sabotage, or talk you out of your destiny. Jemal opens up about how people who saw him build from the ground up didn't treat him differently until the world validated what he was doing. CJ shares how his wife is now experiencing what it's like to step into the light and have people who were once close suddenly act funny. Karl brings the perspective on why you can't stay around people who aren't building. And ET delivers the hard truth: you are supposed to change. People are not supposed to recognize you. That's not the problem. That's the proof. This episode will challenge everything you think about loyalty, relationships, and what it really means to transform. Because the higher you go, the more you expose where others are stuck. And if you're waiting for the people from your past to celebrate the person you're becoming, you'll be waiting forever. Stop dimming your light to make others comfortable. The new you is not for everyone. And that's exactly the point. CHAPTERS / TIMESTAMPS Chapters 00:00:00 Opening: Vision Beyond the Demolition - Seeing What Others Can't 00:01:27 Welcome and Team Introductions 00:03:20 Fair or Foul: The Airplane Seat Swap Dilemma 00:08:15 The Tip Jar Philosophy: Making Sure They See You Bless Them 00:10:17 Harriet Tubman's Gun: Why She Carried It for Her Friends, Not Her Enemies 00:12:47 They Won't Recognize You Anymore: When Transformation Makes You Unfamiliar 00:14:40 The Proximity Problem: When Your Light Exposes Where Others Are At 00:17:20 The Prophet Is Not Recognized in His Hometown: Jesus, ET, and the Title World 00:21:30 The Four Stages People Go Through When You Change 00:26:48 Romans 12:2 - Be Transformed by the Renewing of Your Mind 00:42:21 The X-Men Analogy: Stop Trying to Be Understood by Regular People 00:46:00 Closing: Concentrate on This Opportunity with All Your Might JOIN US LIVE ON PATREON New audio every Tuesday, video every Wednesday, plus live recordings with the S2S fam. https://www.patreon.com/c/S2SPodcast120 PRE-ORDER "WE IS GREATER THAN ME" The debut book from Eric Thomas and CJ Quinney. https://www.amazon.com/We-Greater-Than-Me-Highest-ebook/dp/B0GPGXXD5D NEXT LEVEL SPEAKERS CONFERENCE June 5 to 7, 2026, Atlanta, GA. Learn to start, grow, and monetize your speaking brand with ET, CJ, Jemal, Karl, Inky Johnson, Jeremy Anderson, and Marco Kino. nextlevelspeakersconference.com SUBSCRIBE https://www.youtube.com/@S2SPodcastChannel?sub_confirmation=1 LISTEN ANYWHERE Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/secret-to-success/id123456789 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0GrMsi1Cxj3nipnI9HR1QX?si=f057018bcba44c15 FOLLOW Instagram: @s2spodcast ABOUT THE PODCAST The Secret to Success podcast is hosted by Eric Thomas, the Hip Hop Preacher, Karl Phillips, the Bajan Sensation, CJ Quinney, and Jemal King. Four friends, four journeys, one mission, real conversations on faith, family, business, and the work it takes to build a life that lasts. New episodes every Thursday.

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0:00.0

So when I'm walking through properties and they're demoing it, I already got the blueprints of what this property is going to look like. And so when I'm, I don't see the walls being torn down. I see the walls being built up. I'm already living in the room. I'm already seeing the vision of it. So, I mean, see, you was talking about being cut. If a person being cut, you ain't, bro, I literally got cut on both hips.

0:37.7

I literally had both hips taken out. And I had literally both of my hips taken out metal hips getting put in. But during that time period, I, you know me, I was sitting up. I was ecstatic to get it happened. I was like, yo, let's go. I'm ready. I was telling the doc. Can you do both of them at the same time?

0:37.6

Because I know that what my life was going to look like once this I was like, yo, let's go. I'm ready. I was telling the doctor. Can you do both of them at the same time?

0:37.9

Right.

0:53.1

Because I know that what my life was going to look like once this renewal happened. When they cut me, after they cut me, I knew I was in pain. I was on pain man's carl. I was bleeding. You know, I couldn't walk. I was on a cane, came out of the house on a wheelchair, but I still knew. You saw the vision.

0:53.8

I saw the vision.

0:54.6

And I knew that in another 30 days, another 45 days, dog, I'm going to be back on the treadmill running again. I'm going to be back out here walking. I ain't going to be feeling this pain no more. And I think somebody got to, I think too many people focus on that process and not focus on what is going to look like what this renewal is going to look like because of the process so you got to look beyond that too many people are looking at the they're walking through the property with the mask on they're looking at the floor the walls they're looking at all this garbage on the floor and they're like oh my god no you you gotta look beyond that. Secret to Success Podcast,

1:50.1

What's going on world?

1:56.9

Welcome to another edition of the Secret to Success podcast.

1:59.9

I'm your host, CJ.

2:00.4

I joined, as always, by the Bayesian sensation, Mr. Carl Wesley, Phillips. What? world welcome to another edition of the secret to success podcast and your host cj joined as

2:00.9

always by the beige and sensation mr carl wesley phillips what's going on y'all what it do

2:06.4

dr king in the building what's the word how you feeling man just sipping on my espresso come on

2:11.8

my expresso come on my expresso don't get whatever you do don't eat i thought baglessed. I thought he was going to go sipping on gin and juice.

2:19.4

Oh, God.

2:20.3

It's too early.

2:21.4

It's too early.

2:22.1

Dang, who's sips on gin and juice, Carl?

2:24.0

He said in his college days.

2:25.6

Man, Carl, that's what you're doing in Barbados.

2:27.7

At the Q frat house.

2:30.1

You know y'all had some ginger juice, a cute house. No, we had cute oil. Mm. Mm. What's that? Give me one day in the cut, and I'll let you know. I'll give you the whole ingredients in that. You give me one day. That's it. No, I'm good. You keep D. Me and Mr. Thomas. I'll hear. For sure.

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