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They: What Muslims and Non-Muslims Get Wrong About Each Other, Sarfraz Manzoor and Ros Urwin

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4.21.2K Ratings

🗓️ 27 August 2021

⏱️ 43 minutes

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Summary

In this week's episode Sarfraz Manzoor speaks to Ros Urwin about his investigative journey across Britain in search of the roots of division - from the fear that Islam promotes violence, to the suspicion that Muslims wish to live segregated lives, to the belief that Islam is fundamentally misogynistic. His new book They is a search for a more positive future. We hear stories which go against common stereotypes about Islam that reveal a much more tolerant and progressive community than commonly assumed. Manzoor unpicks why society is divided in this way and how we can bridge the gaps between groups. To find out more about the book click here: https://www.waterstones.com/book/they/sarfraz-manzoor/9781472266835 Support this show http://supporter.acast.com/intelligencesquared. See acast.com/privacy for privacy and opt-out information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hello, I'm Rory Stewart, and I'd like to tell you about an intelligent squared event

0:04.8

I'm doing with the classicist author and broadcaster Mary Beard. Together we'll be discussing

0:10.1

politics and power from the Caesars to Sunack, who gets to Winpar, who is excluded. Does power

0:16.6

always corrupt or other examples of leaders who've maintained their integrity while an authority?

0:22.2

And how does the nature of power vary across different times and cultures? These are just

0:26.6

some of the questions that Mary and I will be trying to answer. In person tickets are now sold

0:31.4

out, but you can still watch online on the 13th of November at 7pm BST, put your questions

0:37.0

for life as we discuss power and politics down the ages. Over the past two weeks as the Biden

0:43.2

administration withdrew from Afghanistan and the Taliban regained control of the country,

0:48.3

one of the big issues in the news has been around refugees and conversations around multiculturalism,

0:53.9

religion, racism and belonging have been back on the news agenda. So in this week's episode

0:59.0

we're delighted to be joined by Salfras Manzur. He's the author of the new book They, What Muslims

1:04.4

and Non-Muslims Get Wrong About Each Other. He has a really fascinating conversation with

1:08.8

Rawls Irwin, and if you do enjoy it you can find a link for the book in the podcast description,

1:13.4

but now let's go to the episode. Hello and welcome to this intelligent squared podcast with

1:18.8

me, Rosamond Irwin. I'm delighted to welcome our guest today, Salfras Manzur. He's a journalist,

1:24.8

documentary maker, broadcaster and author. He's a regular contributor to the Guardian. He presents

1:30.2

documentaries on BBC Radio 4 and he's the author of Greetings from Barry Park which was published in 2007

1:37.3

and turned into the film Blinded by the Light. He's also the author of the new book They, What Muslims

1:44.1

and Non-Muslims Get Wrong About Each Other. I wanted to start, given that it's in the title,

1:50.4

with the sort of obvious question, which is what would you categorize as the most common mistakes,

1:57.5

Muslims and non-Muslims make about each other? Well what I try to do when I was thinking about

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