I'm Natalie Moore. I fell in love with soap operas when I was just five years old, and I still

watch them. Their television's longest scripted series and have zero reruns. Now let me tell you,

soap operas aren't just some silly art form. They are significant. In this season of making,

Stories Without End from WB EZ Chicago.

Join me as I share how the genre began, their social impact, and why these stories endure.

Listen wherever you get your podcast.

From WBEZ Chicago, this is Nerdette. I'm Greta Johnson. We did it. We made it to another weekend. Coming up, we hear from one of the women who helped provide abortions in Chicago before it was legal.

I'm hoping that if people get any inspiration from it, it's not because we were so strong and heroic, but because we were so ordinary.

There's a new documentary about her on HBO.

It's called The Jains.

Plus, a roundup of other movies coming out this summer.

It's hard to sort of imagine bigger movie stars than Chris Evans and Ryan Gosling punching each other.

So it'll be an interesting experiment. But first, a chance to sit back, relax, and unwind from the week that was with an excellent

human with us this week.

We have Gabby Dunn.

They've written several bestselling books and hosts the podcasts Bad with Money and Just Between

Us.

Their newest ebook and audiobook stimulus wreck is now available on script.

Gabby, welcome to the show.

Thank you so much for having me.

Oh, I'm delighted. Okay, so let's start with this conversation that's been happening on Twitter this week about the movie Fire Island. This is the Joel Kim Booster and Bowen Yang movie on Hulu.

This week is sacred. We're going to Fire Island. It's like gay Disney world. Fun for the whole family.

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