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The NPR Politics Podcast

They Want To Pitch Grand Plans — Instead They're Talking Trump

The NPR Politics Podcast

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4.425.7K Ratings

🗓️ 14 June 2023

⏱️ 15 minutes

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Summary

The big issues in the Republican presidential primary swirl around the fate of one man: Donald Trump. His primary opponents would love to sell voters on how they'd improve on President Biden's leadership — instead they have to answer whether they'd pardon the former leader of the free world.

This episode: voting correspondent Miles Parks, political correspondent Susan Davis, and national political correspondent Mara Liasson.

The podcast is produced by Elena Moore and Casey Morell. Our editor is Eric McDaniel. Our executive producer is Muthoni Muturi.

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0:00.0

Hi, this is Noah. Over the past 20 years my wife and I have lived in Oregon,

0:04.7

Rhode Island, Maryland, Florida, Mississippi, California, a different part of Maryland,

0:09.8

a different part of California, and over the past three years we've lived in Japan.

0:14.0

Today, I'm at London Heathrow Airport picking up my family so we can plead or move to the United

0:19.2

Kingdom. This podcast was recorded at 1.33 pm on June 14, 2023. Things may have changed in the time

0:28.7

of you here at, but I'll still be using mpur politics podcast to get caught up on what's going on

0:33.1

at home. All right, here's the show. I had no idea where that time stamp was going. I feel like I

0:41.5

did not know what location he was going to be in next. Yeah, what does the guy do? A good question,

0:45.4

good question. Hey there, it's the mpur politics podcast. I'm Miles Parks. I cover voting.

0:50.3

Susan Davis, I cover politics. And I'm Mara Liason, National Political Correspondent.

0:54.9

I have demanded that every other candidate in this race either sign this commitment to pardon

1:02.0

on January 20, 2025 or else to explain why they are not. You might recognize that voice. It's

1:09.2

Vivek Ramaswamy, the entrepreneur and investor running against Trump for the Republican nomination

1:15.0

for president. Ramaswamy was outside the federal courthouse in Miami yesterday pledging to pardon

1:20.8

Trump for his alleged hoarding of state secrets and confidential documents at his resort in Florida.

1:26.8

So let's start here. We're going to be talking a lot about pardons today. Sue, where does Ramaswamy fall

1:34.0

in terms of the Republican candidates on this issue? He's certainly been the most out there and

1:38.1

the most aggressive and saying unequivocally as soon as the indictment was delivered that he would

1:44.2

pardon Donald Trump if he were elected president. One of the most fascinating dynamics of the

1:50.4

Republican presidential nomination fight right now is that you could have a front runner

1:55.0

indicted on federal crimes and none of his opponents are trying to use it against him essentially.

2:00.8

Yeah, instead they're like basically like, no, it's great. It's fine. Everything's fine.

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